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how to change model xyz orientation

WILLIAMF — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 11:51:14 GMT

HI,

How do I change the XYZ measurement in a 3-D model so it matches the IDW view placement in a drawing?

I attached a model and drawing. The drawing dimensions are what I need X=8.628 Y =7.220Z=.514.

When I measure the model from flange to flange workpoints I get different dimensions.

Thanks

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

WILLIAMF — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 11:52:56 GMT

Here is the idw I forgot to attach with the orientation and desired dimensions.

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

Anonymous — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 13:58:01 GMT

Hello WILLIAMF,

Here's what I would do. Place your component in an assembly all by itself, constrain it the way you want it with respect to the origin, then shrinkwrap it. If you want to leave open the opportunity to change the component and still have it display in the drawing in the desired manner, take care whilst constraining. But if it is an imported model from somebody else, like a vendor, you shouldn't have to worry too much.

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

WILLIAMF — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:20:22 GMT

thanks

It is an imported IGES file from a vendor. They supply model and drawing file with only the XYZ dimensions they require from flange face to flange face.

My job is to create a working manufacturing drawing.

Seems I need to place different views in the IDW to get the 3 dimensions while I thought it may be something simple like change options default XYZ view orientation but that does not seem to work either.

its a dumb solid I get, but will try your suggestion. Even measuring from point to point in the model I get different measurements than what is desired on the IDW file I sent.

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

MechMachineMan — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:25:19 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Hello WILLIAMF,

Place your component in an assembly all by itself, constrain it the way you want it with respect to the origin, then shrinkwrap it.

That'll create issues with having unnecessary duplication of files of the same part number, as well as causing issues with having the component replace to a new location if the part in question is used in multiple locations.

For an ipt:

- Use the Move Body command within the part environment and rotate the part. NOTE: you can also translate the part with this command to move the origin any way you like

For an iam:

- Unground your base component, and re-constrain the origin planes as required to orient the part as desired.

Note: Changing origin locations CAN throw off an IPN file's display of components as it is partially based on the origin planes/orientation of the component parts.

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

WILLIAMF — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:39:45 GMT

Move bodies does not appear to work on this part. Did you try it on the model I sent?

thanks for the info

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

Anonymous — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:29:44 GMT

@MechMachineMan wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Hello WILLIAMF,

Place your component in an assembly all by itself, constrain it the way you want it with respect to the origin, then shrinkwrap it.

That'll create issues with having unnecessary duplication of files of the same part number, as well as causing issues with having the component replace to a new location if the part in question is used in multiple locations.

For an ipt:

- Use the Move Body command within the part environment and rotate the part. NOTE: you can also translate the part with this command to move the origin any way you like

MechMachineMan,

Not if you break the link it wont. The base is unnecessary once the shrinkwrap is created anyway. Delete the unsatisfactory original and rename the independent shrinkwrap with the name of the original file and off you go. This method has worked consistently for me with stp file conversions from McMaster.

I would think the Direct Edit feature would be able to accomplish the same thing as you're suggesting,MechMachineMan.

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

WILLIAMF — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:35:12 GMT

got it! Thanks a lot!

Re: how to change model xyz orientation

SBix26 — Tue, 01 Aug 2017 00:27:51 GMT

Here's your file (2017 format) after using the Move Body tool to re-orient. I simply used the Measure and Measure Angle tool (set to All Decimals precision) and copied the measurements to the Move Body offset fields.

Just another way to get there.

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Re: how to change model xyz orientation

WILLIAMF — Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:58:43 GMT

thank you

I never had a need to use that command. Interesting though.

I will study up on the usage of it.