topic Re: Emboss in Inventor Forum

Emboss

per.widegren — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:50:45 GMT

Hi Guys,

I´m having problem with the Emboss that it not breaking thru the edge.

maybe I´m using it in a wrong way...

whant to do a Pocket along the surface 0,3mm deep, works brilliant if you stay inside the surface.

Is there another way to do it?

It looks like in the picture

Re: Emboss

JDMather — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 16:04:09 GMT

Can you attach the actual *.ipt file here?

What version of Inventor are you using (including Service Pack information)?

Re: Emboss

per.widegren — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 16:06:45 GMT

Hi JD.
The sketch is going outside the edge,

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the model as well

Re: Emboss

JDMather — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 16:26:22 GMT

If you are attempting to add the attachment with the phone app - you will need to use web browser instead.

Re: Emboss

johnsonshiue — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 21:14:35 GMT

Hi! Without seeing the part, I can only guess. I would say the Emboss was created probably before a few downstream features. It is supposed to go through the edge but the downstream features hold it back. Please attach the file here to confirm.

Many thanks!

Re: Emboss

per.widegren — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 06:48:01 GMT

Hi Guys,

here comes the IPT file again.

Re: Emboss

per.widegren — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 06:58:59 GMT

I found a workaround for this problem. But it would be good if I dont need to do that.

The workaround is to cut the surface where the emboss did´t got thru. then it looks like this as it should.

Re: Emboss

Thomas_Savage — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 07:40:37 GMT

Hello,

Do the Emboss before the extrude.

Then it will work.

I suppressed your extrude. Did the emboss, then did the extrude, and it worked.

I also suppressed the shell.

I have attached a print screen so you can see, and the .ipt.

You also needed to fully constrain the sketch.

So if you do the Emboss before the Extrude it will work fine.

Thomas.

Re: Emboss

JDMather — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 11:13:55 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

I found a workaround....

@per.widegren

You could model this part much more efficiently - from the first sketch to the last feature.

If I remodel the part to demonstrate how - are you going to stick around for the solution, or are you happy with what you have?

Re: Emboss

per.widegren — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:25:20 GMT

Hello,

Yes please that could be interesting to see 🙂

Re: Emboss

JDMather — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:45:19 GMT

Well, as I started to reproduce this in a more efficient technique (not creating any Workplanes), after Sketch1, none of your sketches are fully dimensioned? I worked out on the shop floor for 8 yrs and yet I am not familiar with making parts without dimensions.

Can you go though and add your missing size and position dimensions to all of the sketches, not just Sketch1?

Is this a school assignment?

Re: Emboss

per.widegren — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:05:19 GMT

Hi here comes the part with dimensions 🙂

Ye I try to learn how to design this kind of plastic parts. or in general diecast parts. in a more design looking way. Kind of.

Re: Emboss

JDMather — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:45:41 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Hi here comes the part with dimensions 🙂

It appears to me that you simply went through and added a bunch of meaningless dimensions?

I had to put a couple of hours of work into this.

I recommend that beginners give honest effort.

See attached.

Re: Emboss

per.widegren — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:12:36 GMT

That was an intresting way to solve it,

Many thanks to explane and showing how it can be done 🙂

Regarding the dimension, I didn´t know what you where needing to show how it could be done. so I put some litle everywhare.

Most of the time I never ever use dimension if I don´t really need it.

Those inventor work better in a mathematic way if you fully dimension your models?

Re: Emboss

Thomas_Savage — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:15:56 GMT

Hello,

When don't you need a dimension?

You should always dimension and fully constrain your sketch.

Thomas.

Re: Emboss

Bill_Bogan1 — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:02:51 GMT

The concept of a fully constrained sketch sounds new to you. Here's a brief explanation of why you would want to consider constrained sketch geometry.

An unconstrained sketch is a little like riding a bicycle without using your hands. It can be done, but the slightest bump, rut, or shifted weight can effect your direction and cause you some level of discomfort. It is the same with unconstrained geometry.

A couple of the values of constrained sketches are (there are more):

Predictable behavior when you modify a value or relationship
They help reduce or prevent unexpected/unwanted changes in model shape, size, etc.
You can create relationships between model defining geometry. E.g. a hole being concentric with an arc/cylindrical shape, or an embossed feature maintaining a fixed distance from an edge.

Hope this helps a little.

Re: Emboss

Paul.Normand — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:26:09 GMT

It's very important to add dimensions and constraints to your geometry so that you do not accidentally "nudge" geometry with your mouse and make an unexpected change. Are you adding dimensions and then erasing them to clear up the display? The dimension visibility can be turned off manually (View tab>Object Visibility) and dimension visibility is automatically turned off by the system when the sketch is consumed by a feature. Sounds like you could benefit from some training.

Did you know that Inventor comes with many hands on tutorials that include text, video, and datasets? If you are new to 3D modeling software, I suggest checking out the tutorials found in the Learning Path (Get Started tab>Learning Path).

More tutorials on a variety of topics can be found in the tutorial gallery (Get Started> Tutorial Gallery)