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Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:02:40 GMT

Hi there,

I have been publishing an I Beam to Frame Generator. The I Beam is placed into the skeleton frame OK but the height and width are unproportional to each other. I originally drew up the I Beam sketch in mm but Frame Generator has multiplied this by 25.4 while the height remains ok?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Chris

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:03:15 GMT

Chris,

Are these beams something you published to the CC? What are your units for the model? Are they the same as the model you created?

Seams like the beam you created was done in the wrong units. Why not open the model up and change the units. If you did publish it, delete it out of the CC and republish. Then try it in FG again. Should be fine after that.

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:03:35 GMT

Hi Scott,

The I Beam was drawn up in mm and the document settings are all in mm but something is 'throwing' the shape width out by a scale factor of 25.4 when I insert the frame. Yes, I published them to the CC. When you initially place the member it looks OK but when you accept, the shape changes.

In four or five years of using Frame Generator, I haven't seen this before. I have checked the basic sketch and everything is in mm. I was wondering if there was a setting that scaled frame members up or down.

Best regards,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:03:54 GMT

Chris,

Did the part come from the CC? Take a look at this link. Seems like it offers a possible solution for you.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/scale-part-or-body-without-deriving/idi-p/5274363

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWflh-P3DZw

Any way to post the part to take a look at?

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:04:18 GMT

Hi Scott,

Yes, the part was published as a Structural Shape to Contents Centre. I will try as you suggest to publish again and see what happens. If the same thing happens, I'll send you a file.

Many thanks,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:04:42 GMT

Skewed I Beam

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:05:00 GMT

What version are you running?

I have 2017.

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:05:16 GMT

Hi Scott,

I have 2017 version too.

Best regards,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:05:36 GMT

See if this is what you are looking for.

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:05:56 GMT

Inserting Frame MemberAfter 'Apply' Button

Hi Scott.

Here are screen shots of that member you sent after I have published it to CC again. The member looks like it's going in OK (in green) but after apply, everything changes.

Best regards,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:06:16 GMT

Chris,

In your FG assembly, try doing this and see if it makes a difference.

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:06:39 GMT

Hi Scott,

Yes, again the same issue - the FG model was set to mm too. Again the width:height ratio is all skewed.

I haven't come across this issue. There is a sketch that FG creates with the new unwanted I Beam and the dimensions are not what I originally created.

Best regards,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:07:44 GMT

Hi Chris,

I want to play with this, but your assembly is looking for this file.

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:08:14 GMT

Hi Scott,

Thanks very much for your help on this - much appreciated.

I'm out options to be honest yet the standard Content Center sections seem to work OK in Frame Generator.

Best regards,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

Cadmanto — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:38:13 GMT

Ok Chris. You are most welcome. Sorry I couldn't have helped more.

Good luck with this.

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

kelly.young — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:38:30 GMT

Hello @jcsteele560 your frame will publish just fine, but the unit settings you have are in inches. If you go into the Tools > Document Settings and change to mm your issue should be fixed.

You have to make sure your assembly, frame parts, skeleton sketch, are all in mm.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

jcsteele560 — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:38:48 GMT

Hi Kelly,

Many thanks for your reply.

I would have assumed that if the shape were in inches that the shape would have stayed in proportion rather than one dimension being considerably longer than the other?

Best regards,

Chris

Re: Frame Generator Unit Scale Unproportional inches-mm

kelly.young — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:43:22 GMT

@jcsteele560 I couldn't reproduce the dimension proportion change like you are describing.

When I changed all units to mm the frame generator member comes in and measures as expected.

If you can show a screencast of what you are experiencing that might clear things up.

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