topic Re: Note Balloons on Drawing in Inventor Forum

Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:16:32 GMT

I always get confused with this, and forget the work around. I'm trying to create a note that has a balloon on some of the numbers, and then have the same balloon somewhere else on the drawing (that references the note).

For example.

Notes:

1. Dimension is to theoretical intersection

2. Break all sharp edges R/C .015 max

3. This drawing was created using sub-par cad

I would like note 1 to have a triangle (but will use what ever shape is possible) around the number. Then I would like to add this same shape (with the "1" inside of it) near the dimensions where this note applies.

I have included a few examples of how this looks in Solidworks

Thanks,

and I apologize if this is a repeated question, I tried searching the forum, but then started going down the forum rabbit hole.....

Todd

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

Cadmanto — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:22:59 GMT

Sounds like you are trying to create flag notes. See these links.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/adding-flag-notes-to-a-drawing/td-p/6525463

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/drawing-notes-text-border/td-p/6816869

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Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:34:42 GMT

Yes, flag notes are what I'm trying to do....

I read the posts below (and it looks like this is my third attempt of going to the forum to create a flag note, kind of sad.)

I read over the links, and watched @mcgyvr's screen cast, but I don't have the "Prompted Entry" option in my drop down box ....

back to being stuck

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

MechMachineMan — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:04:26 GMT

@ToddPig

Try creating the sketched symbol again, and while the text command is active, take a screen shot of the dropdown where it is not showing prompted entry.

That behavior does not sound right.

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

Cadmanto — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:08:22 GMT

I don't know why you can't get prompted flag notes. Seems to me all you have to do is create a custom property and just link that property in the symbol. I have that in one symbol I have created. I don't get a window that pops up, but it is lumped into the iLogic form I fill out to populate my title block.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2014/ENU/Inventor/files/GUID-708CC945-36C4-4402-AB99-4403FFAB1878-htm.html

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Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:10:34 GMT

I attached the screen grab showing what is not there

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:21:50 GMT

Scott,

Would you mind posting a screen cast of how to do this? I am missing the boat here, I only want to add a note flag, this takes only a few clicks (using the shortcut <T#-3> in your notes give a triangle with a "3" inside of it) in Solidworks. I'm getting the feeling that I need to write some code to be able to do this in Inventor?

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

MechMachineMan — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:29:11 GMT

@ToddPig

That's not right if the Prompted Entries isn't there and there is some underlying issues.

HOWEVER, my suspicion is that you are not actually entering the SKETCHED SYMBOL editting window when doing that, and are just using plain text.

As shown in the picture below, select the dropdown and then pick "DEFINE new symbol" first. Then, once that brings open the sketch window, use the prompted text. You should be able to see the dropdown there.

This defining the new symbol only needs to be done ONCE per generic symbol layout, then from there, you can simply insert the symbol by using the INSERT symbol command from the same dropdown as the define symbol command, by double clicking the sketched symbol name in the browser, or by dragging the symbol name from in the browser. This will then bring up the prompted text entry window so you can change the text for each separate prompted entry textbox you put in.

Your screen capture is missing the browser nodes so I cannot tell for sure.

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

mcgyvr — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:25:34 GMT

@ToddPig wrote:

I attached the screen grab showing what is not there

Works just fine here.. (when the proper procedure is followed )

I'm going to assume you started a normal sketch in the drawing and are not using the "Define new symbol" function to create your sketched symbol..

And **** you for shouting me out to make me come to this forum.. I'm protesting this horrible new implementation of the forums like a two year old by trying not to visit it anymore..

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

Cadmanto — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:29:20 GMT

Yeah, I remember how to do it in Solidworks.

I could do a screen cast, except I am not sure what you are wanting me to capture. I will start by asking, did you create your custom property in the drawing, or model? That will speak to which selection in the text editor you need.

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Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:39:31 GMT

Rarely does the forum cause this much laughter, well played sir!!

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

mcgyvr — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:17:45 GMT

@ToddPig wrote:
Rarely does the forum cause this much laughter, well played sir!!

Was that to me?

Remember... another new... suck.. of this new redesign is that we cannot tell who you are replying to unless you specifically state it..

So you really need to use the quote functionality if you intend on relying to someone specific or else confusion develops..

That "in reply to" functionality was not implemented (so far) on this site like it was on the last..

And if that was to me were you able to get the prompt to work using the correct procedure?

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:26:38 GMT

I can get it to work once, but have to recreate it on every drawing? Seems like I'm missing a step.

@mcgyvr Yes, my "well played" comment was for you.

And this new Forum reminds me of the last few Inventor software xxxxx (have a hard time calling them updates), they are more changes rather than improvements.

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

MechMachineMan — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:36:29 GMT

@ToddPig

That's what templates are created for.

There is also the symbol library which ?should? be accessible across all documents.

You should also be able to copy the sketched symbol definition from one document to another through the browser nodes/right click menu.

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

dgorsman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:36:44 GMT

@MechMachineMan wrote:

@ToddPig

That's what templates are created for.

There is also the symbol library which ?should? be accessible across all documents.

You should also be able to copy the sketched symbol definition from one document to another through the browser nodes/right click menu.

@MechMachineMan - mind trimming down your signature from ~20 lines to something more reasonable? Not a good sign when your signature space is far longer than the average post...

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

MechMachineMan — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:09:51 GMT

@dgorsman You can ignore it if it bothers you. Contains valuable links for everyone else/newcomers to the thread. You can disable signatures in you preferences if you don't like it, or use a custom css script to remove it.

(but as you can see now, I DID update it to take up less space (smaller font size) and differentiate it (added padding) from the other text a bit more)

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

Cadmanto — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:16:37 GMT

Do it in your templates. Then make sure your pathing is correct to go to these templates.

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Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

dgorsman — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:23:28 GMT

Some of them are useful e.g. hardware/OS specs, so blanket on/off is overkill.

And while I don't mind doing some CSS, that's a little overboard for simply viewing a website. And even then the forums are being actively worked on, so overriding things may just end up hiding other problems or being rendered useless later.

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:28:04 GMT

In all honesty, it seems like you might need some official (and proper) training,especially coming from SolidWorks.

I know myself (when I was in business) and a few resellers offer a specific "transition" course just for that.

A sort of "this is how you did it in Solidworks, here's how it's done in Inventor".

Each time I taught such a class, there were always a few "aah haa" moments.

Just saying, it might ease the pain you speak of.

Re: Note Balloons on Drawing

ToddPig — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:37:43 GMT

It wouldn't hurt, but the problem that I think training will not solve are the limitations of Inventor.
Not being able to design withing the context of the assembly "all the time" is frustrating because of how easy this is in Solidworks. This is not something training can remedy.
Also, applying Gd&T to drawings is very time consuming, and on top of that, just "looks worse" than Solidworks. Again, not sure training can help this.
Thirdly, the fact that I have to create another file (a presentation) just to make an exploded view seems like a waste of time, especially after being familiar with how Solidworks does this.
There are many more examples (selecting a loop in a sketch, offsetting skeetch geometry, applying horizontal and vertical mates, transparent parts, having to use a Space Mouse, applying fillets/chamfers, 3D PDF's, draft analysis, etc.... .....

I have purchased 3 Inventor books (although only one, Curtis's, is worth while), and have spent numerous hours in this forum and on YouTube. I get better and better at Inventor every time I use it, but it seems like I stubble upon the "that's just not something you can do in Inventor" way too often.