topic Re: 2019 Measure Loop in Inventor Forum

2019 Measure Loop

Robert.Reid — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:13:29 GMT

Did Autodesk drop the ball on the measure tool again?

How do I find the Length of the Cut Extrude inside the rectangle?

WITHOUT HAVING TO DO MATH!

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Cadmanto — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:39:29 GMT

In the measure tool select below and pick the face. Don't know about 2019, but it is in 2018.

Windows 10 x64 -16GB Ram
Intel i7-6700 @ 3.41ghz
nVidia GTS 250 - 1 GB
Inventor Pro 2018

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

johnsonshiue — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:46:28 GMT

Hi! The ability to measure a loop is still there. You just need to right-click on an edge -> Select Other -> select Loop.

Many thanks!

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 13:08:39 GMT

And how to get this measure on the 2D drawing?

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

johnsonshiue — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:47:12 GMT

Hi! Measure tool was removed from 2D drawing starting from Inventor 2018. The reason why it was removed is because of ambiguity of the measurement. Measure tool by itself is for 3D. Within the drawing environment, the view geometry is actually like a camera view of the 3D model. When you measure from one point to another, resultant measurement can be in 3D. If you are looking for the 2D measurement, you can create drawing dimensions so that they are measured in 2D space.

Many thanks!

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

IgorMir — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:42:45 GMT

Hi Johnson;

I am with Robert on that one. How can I document the length of the loop? It doesn't matter what for. Say, for simplicity - I just need it. Apart from creating a bunch of dimensions in the sketch, add them all up and create a User Parameter which reflects the total length - I couldn't think of any other, simpler solution. Or is there one?

Cheers,

Igor.

@johnsonshiue wrote:

Hi! Measure tool was removed from 2D drawing starting from Inventor 2018. The reason why it was removed is because of ambiguity of the measurement. Measure tool by itself is for 3D. Within the drawing environment, the view geometry is actually like a camera view of the 3D model. When you measure from one point to another, resultant measurement can be in 3D. If you are looking for the 2D measurement, you can create drawing dimensions so that they are measured in 2D space.

Many thanks!

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

GeorgK — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 06:31:47 GMT

@johnsonshiue Hi Johnson,

it would be great to have it again. It takes time to switch between the drawing and the 3d model.

Georg

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:20:09 GMT

Hi thanks for replays.

It was a funktion like this (in another 3D program)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WXt2DM2Ogs

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

mpatchus — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:00:49 GMT

@Robert.Reid @IgorMir @Anonymous

I've used this method in the past.

Measure the internal loop in your part and copy that measurement to a User Parameter in the part (something like INT_LOOP), then use that parameter on your drawing.

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

IgorMir — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:56:48 GMT

Hello Mike;

Could you please tell us what will happen to that User Parameter once the model is edited and the length of the loop is changed?

Cheers,

Igor.

@mpatchus wrote:

@Robert.Reid @IgorMir @Anonymous

I've used this method in the past.

Measure the internal loop in your part and copy that measurement to a User Parameter in the part (something like INT_LOOP), then use that parameter on your drawing.

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

IgorMir — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 02:58:00 GMT

That's is done very elegantly indeed.

Cheers,

Igor.

@Anonymous wrote:

Hi thanks for replays.

It was a funktion like this (in another 3D program)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WXt2DM2Ogs

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

mpatchus — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 15:34:35 GMT

@IgorMir

If you alter the geometry, you do have to remember to remeasure and paste the dimesion into the parameter.

I don't think there is any way to link it at this point.

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

IgorMir — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 04:26:07 GMT

Thanks, Mike;

Unfortunately - from the beginning the suggestion of yours didn't have much of a value. Since it leaves a great deal of opportunity to create a user error. And that's what I was trying to point out to you in my previous post.

Best Regards,

Igor.

@mpatchus wrote:

@IgorMir

If you alter the geometry, you do have to remember to remeasure and paste the dimesion into the parameter.

I don't think there is any way to link it at this point.

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Ksmedley — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:23:39 GMT

This was a tricky one to find...

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

inv-design — Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:45:31 GMT

So tricky, in fact... that I still can't find it. In v.2018, I could right-click and select Loop from the pop-up menu. It doesn't work in v.2019.

I use this all the time when working with roller chain and sprockets. My sketch in the chain model consists of two arcs (drawn at the pitch diameters of the two sprockets) and two tangent lines connecting them. The length of these two arcs plus the tangent lines are my chain length, which obviously needs to be a number equally divisible by the pitch of the chain. Then this loop is offset to the inside and outside to represent the height of the chain, and then this region is extruded to the chain width.

In the attached screenshot, you can see the menu that pops up when I right-click on the line.... no option to "Select Other." What am I missing here?

Someone please, PLEASE explain how I can measure this loop.

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

johnsonshiue — Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:51:53 GMT

Hi! Did you happen to have the following registry key set?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Inventor-hangs-when-executing-the-Measure-command-or-editing-an-Extrusion-feature.html

Many thanks!

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Aug 2019 05:32:21 GMT

Note to Autodesk -

Makes it possible to measure loop directly

And make it a part of dimensioning on loops. (as on the other 3D program) 🙂

Please.....

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Yashasvi23481 — Thu, 08 Aug 2019 06:29:58 GMT

Hi Robert,

For complicated profile like this, would not you create a dxf and send to cnc ? in that case, you don't need a details of the loop length. When you have complex profile plate like this, I usually prefer exporting face to dxf and on idw just give overall dimensions. I have not come across need to calculate such loop or cutout. Whether you have your own manufacturing unit with cnc or outsourcing to cut it elsewhere, dxf is usually created using export face as.

Its too much time consuming. Maybe I am going tangential but that will be my approach.

Regards,

Yash

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

johnsonshiue — Thu, 08 Aug 2019 20:31:10 GMT

Hi! Measure Loop should work. You simply need to right-click -> Select Other -> find the loop selection, when Measure tool is active.

Unfortunately, there is no loop dimension yet. I have heard about the request but it has not been implemented. Please feel free to report it as an idea on Inventor Ideas forum or vote for an existing one.

Many thanks!

Re: 2019 Measure Loop

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:22:41 GMT

I do not see this as an improvement. Autodesk loves 'fixing' what ain't broke.