topic Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed. in Inventor Forum

Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

Reinier — Wed, 06 Jun 2018 07:40:35 GMT

Dear All,

The appearance of a Part does not update on the drawing when changed to another appearance.

Thx Reinier

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

mcgyvr — Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:30:52 GMT

@Reinier wrote:

Dear All,

The appearance of a Part does not update on the drawing when changed to another appearance.

Thx Reinier

Well.. It usually does..

So you have something special going on.. We will need more information to have a chance at a solution here...

Details are needed.. Post your files (ipt/idw,etc.. use pack and go to zip up the dataset)

In addition to the model files you should always post your version of Inventor and state if its up to date with all available updates..

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

johnsonshiue — Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:50:06 GMT

Hi Reinier,

I have seen this behavior. It is related to how and where the appearance is applied. Are these body or part appearance overrides or feature/face appearance overrides? Could you share an example with me (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)?

Many thanks!

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

engfcavalcanti — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 15:52:20 GMT

Hi,

Take a look at the pictures below, it´s functioning very well since 2017 version. Probably you have another issue to solve. Try to save the .ipt file with the new appearance/material caracteristics.

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

Cris-Ideas — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:19:15 GMT

Hi,

Well it is not functioning that good.

Appearance overrides for parts are not followed on the drawings for design views representations of the part other than MASTER for face and body overrides.

So if you have your part and create DVR "yellow" and override colour of on face to yellow, and than use this DVR in assembly DVR this face will not be yellow on the drawing.

It will be yellow only if override is done in MASTER DVR of the part.

Had waisted days for creating "painting" DVR of my parts, before resiled that.

This is one of so many bugs.

Cris.

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

johnsonshiue — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:15:08 GMT

Hi! What Cris described here is how face color and feature color work. Face color and feature color are not controlled by design view reps. Such overrides are stored in the body or the feature.

Many thanks!

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

Cris-Ideas — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:00:27 GMT

@johnsonshiue wrote:
.....Face color and feature color are not controlled by design view reps. Such overrides are stored in the body or the feature.
....

So why than if the overrides are done in Master DVR of the part that they are polluted in the assembly DVR and on the drawing?

And while they are done in user defined DVR of the part they are populated in assembly DVR but not on the drawing?

This in my opinion is bug. What I have in assembly and see, I should get on the drawing. Shouldn't I?

Surly I should. Without a question.

Besides this "buggy feature" makes DVR of the part rather useless if you would like to use them for presentation purposes.

Cris.

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

johnsonshiue — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:42:34 GMT

Hi Cris,

The behavior is indeed confusing. The way master assembly design view works differently than the way master part design view works. At assembly level, master design view does not store any overrides, meaning it is override-free. At the part level, master design view also does not store any overrides. The appearance change to any object within the part when master design view is active is saved with the object. It means the appearance of the object has been changed as such. It is not considered an override. For example, a part solid body is colored in red,when the part master DV is active. You create View1 which overrides the red to blue. But, the red itself isn't an override.

Many thanks!

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

Cris-Ideas — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:01:47 GMT

But the question is:

Why when in Assembly I see part with proper overrides and all looks as expected I do not get this view on the drawing?

It obviously is not a problem with overrides but improper populating assembly view on to drawing.

Cris.

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

johnsonshiue — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:12:23 GMT

Hi Cris,

I see what you are saying. Yes, that is a bug. I personally think the shaded drawing view should always be the same as the shaded view in the assembly. I vaguely remember this is a known defect. Do you have the support case and defect ID? I can follow up with the project team and see what we can do.

Many thanks!

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

Cris-Ideas — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:38:41 GMT

I am not sure If I have a support case for that.

I may have had one among over 150 I have reported.

I surly had others related to DVR problems as well, they are closed and no fix available.

just as a reminder other known issue with populating assembly DVR on to the drawing is:

that drawings have theyr own lighting scheme that can not be edited and lighting scheme selected for DVR in assembly is not followed on drawings.

Now I am sure they are all closed. And I am not able to spend time looking for them.

Cris.

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

johnsonshiue — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 12:20:10 GMT

Hi Cris,

It is not true that all your cases are closed. It is also not true that all the issues you reported were not resolved. Some may not have been resolved on the release you are at right now (2017). Regardless, each case is reviewed carefully for its feasibility and overall risk involved. I am sorry that we cannot seem to fix enough defects for you. Please note that we have other customers to take care at the same time.

Like I said before, I wish none of the defects existed in the first place. We are trying very hard to address these issues for users worldwide. About comparing to other vendors, I am not sure if it is relevant. Let's not get into politics. This is a technical forum, not a political forum. I only want to focus on the issues that we can address. Anything else is beyond our control. If you can dig up something help reproduce the particular case, it will be extremely helpful.

Many thanks!

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

adrianV32PG — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 16:14:28 GMT

On the drawing view, I can right click and choose 'Apply Design View'. That updates the view to match the model, although I had to re-hide a few parts that became visible again.

Re: Appearance/Material does not update on Part drawing when changed.

mach9design — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:48:08 GMT

Double click / or EDIT View - On Component TAB change View Representation from Master to Default.

View should the match model appearance......