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Split tool Lofted Flange

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 01:27:26 GMT

Hi All,

I have a tricky modelling task that I need some help with...

I've created a multi-body sheet metal part with a lofted flange for a square to round transition (see attached file)

I'm using the Split command and a user plane as the split tool to make the lofted flange from two pieces along the shortest bend line (see Transition Split Plane feature in model).

The model is parametric with two key parameters OUTLET_DIA and FLANGE_ANGLE. The problem occurs when I change, for example OUTLET_DIA from 150mm to 200mm, the user plane loses all its inputs. I need to be able to change the key parameters without having to intervene and fix the plane each time. Any ideas how I can achieve this?

Re: Split tool Lofted Flange

Xun.Zhang — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 08:00:59 GMT

Hello @Anonymous,

It depends on the definition of workplane (Transition Split Plane), it lost the reference point once modify the parameter to 200mm.

I don't know the design intention, it would be good if you can find a more robust way to setup the workplace to avoid the impact from upstream loft feature.

Hope it helps!

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WHolzwarth — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 08:25:44 GMT

Here's my attempt (2018 IPT).

Fine-tuning is still needed.

Re: Split tool Lofted Flange

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 20:39:07 GMT

Hi @Xun.Zhang

I understand why the work plane is losing its reference point and that the way I have modeled it is not robust.

I was hoping that by posting, someone else would reply with a more robust way of achieving my goal.

The design intent is that the loft is split as shown below, and the INLET_DIA can be freely changed as desired.

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Anonymous — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 21:07:55 GMT

Hi @WHolzwarth ,

Nice attempt, I think you might be onto something by modelling the parts with separate loft features.

The issue I see on your model is that the horizontal line that splits the round profile into semi-circles is constrained to the projected center point from the Flange Sketch (the rectangular profile center point)

The true convergence point of the Transition Lofted Flange is different. I can't find a way to reference it though without it failing every time the diameter changes 🙁

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WHolzwarth — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 21:36:05 GMT

New attempt, looking better.

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johnsonshiue — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:19:18 GMT

Hi! Another alternative is to create regular Loft Surface. Then use Unwrap to flatten it. This workflow would simplify the bends.

Many thanks!

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Anonymous — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 02:22:18 GMT

@WHolzwarth that looks better, splitting the semi-circles at the center point of the circle is closer to the "true" convergence point ("true" as in the point the bends would meet if created from a single lofted flange feature)

If anyone has an idea how to reference the "true" point the folds converge, please do share.

Many thanks.

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Anonymous — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 02:20:53 GMT

@johnsonshiue thanks for your reply.

Unfortunately I'm using 2018 so I don't yet have the Unwrap feature. Still not entirely sure how this would solve this problem though.