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    <title>topic All-Inventor Configure to Order Process? in Inventor Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I recently started working at a company that produces what I would consider to be "configure-to-order" heavy medical equipment.&amp;nbsp; The finished product is comprised of structural steel tube, formed sheet-metal parts and cut/miter to length extruded parts (both aluminum and plastic).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The current design-to-build process is similar to what I have seen at other equipment suppliers: quote and rough (2D) drawings based on minimal customer requirements, upon PO receipt more detailed drawings to generate a Submittal package, and finally on receipt of approved Submittal we start work in 3D and build the whole design out in Inventor.&amp;nbsp; The Design Lead here has done a nice job of building out some pretty sophisticated iLogic models that let us get rolling pretty quickly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are several things about this process I don't like:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;We essentially start and "detail" a model in AutoCAD, then start over in Inventor and use that to manufacture from.&amp;nbsp; So, the initial work gets essentially thrown away.&amp;nbsp; And, there are lots of opportunities to miss details as that work is handed off between departments.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Our designs require review and stamping by a PE for structural integrity.&amp;nbsp; They use RISA for this and when we send them DWG's, they have to build out 3D models of the system to analyze.&amp;nbsp; Obviously this is wasteful in both cost and time&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;More and more often, we're being asked for BIM models even at the Quote stage.&amp;nbsp; This currently involves building a simple 3D model from the 2D prints, but again it's throwaway work that neither refines the "source-of-truth" design nor contributes to the downstream work that may be required&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm currently working on driving the transition from 2D to 3D upstream by one more step so that the Submittal drawings are based on a relatively basic 3D model rather than AutoCAD.&amp;nbsp; My real question here is are any of you starting your sales process - at the Quote level - with Inventor using Configurator or something similar?&amp;nbsp; Are you able to drive designs from less- to more-detailed without many steps backwards?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would love to find someone who's making this work and learn the ups and downs of what you're doing and how you got there.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2020 16:52:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>mikahb</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-02-13T16:52:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>All-Inventor Configure to Order Process?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/all-inventor-configure-to-order-process/m-p/9316486#M153733</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I recently started working at a company that produces what I would consider to be "configure-to-order" heavy medical equipment.&amp;nbsp; The finished product is comprised of structural steel tube, formed sheet-metal parts and cut/miter to length extruded parts (both aluminum and plastic).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The current design-to-build process is similar to what I have seen at other equipment suppliers: quote and rough (2D) drawings based on minimal customer requirements, upon PO receipt more detailed drawings to generate a Submittal package, and finally on receipt of approved Submittal we start work in 3D and build the whole design out in Inventor.&amp;nbsp; The Design Lead here has done a nice job of building out some pretty sophisticated iLogic models that let us get rolling pretty quickly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are several things about this process I don't like:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;We essentially start and "detail" a model in AutoCAD, then start over in Inventor and use that to manufacture from.&amp;nbsp; So, the initial work gets essentially thrown away.&amp;nbsp; And, there are lots of opportunities to miss details as that work is handed off between departments.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Our designs require review and stamping by a PE for structural integrity.&amp;nbsp; They use RISA for this and when we send them DWG's, they have to build out 3D models of the system to analyze.&amp;nbsp; Obviously this is wasteful in both cost and time&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;More and more often, we're being asked for BIM models even at the Quote stage.&amp;nbsp; This currently involves building a simple 3D model from the 2D prints, but again it's throwaway work that neither refines the "source-of-truth" design nor contributes to the downstream work that may be required&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm currently working on driving the transition from 2D to 3D upstream by one more step so that the Submittal drawings are based on a relatively basic 3D model rather than AutoCAD.&amp;nbsp; My real question here is are any of you starting your sales process - at the Quote level - with Inventor using Configurator or something similar?&amp;nbsp; Are you able to drive designs from less- to more-detailed without many steps backwards?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would love to find someone who's making this work and learn the ups and downs of what you're doing and how you got there.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2020 16:52:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mikahb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-13T16:52:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: All-Inventor Configure to Order Process?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/all-inventor-configure-to-order-process/m-p/9317343#M153734</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi! I believe this should be doable via Inventor Design Automation on Forge. Let me work with the project team and see how we can help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Many thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:34:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/all-inventor-configure-to-order-process/m-p/9317343#M153734</guid>
      <dc:creator>johnsonshiue</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-13T22:34:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: All-Inventor Configure to Order Process?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/all-inventor-configure-to-order-process/m-p/9321844#M153735</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks, Johnson - be interested to hear what you come up with.&amp;nbsp; We've considered writing add-ins, but my (meager) understanding is that because Frame Generator is an add-in itself, it would be tough for us to interact with it from our own add-in.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2020 02:33:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/all-inventor-configure-to-order-process/m-p/9321844#M153735</guid>
      <dc:creator>mikahb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-17T02:33:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: All-Inventor Configure to Order Process?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/all-inventor-configure-to-order-process/m-p/9338599#M153736</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'd like to follow up with you more on this. I'm working on Design Automation for Inventor and think it could be a good fit for you but there may be some challenges with Frame Generator. Do you mind if I reach out to follow up on this along with our Product Manager for Inventor Automation?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;:Andy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:36:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>akenson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-24T20:36:36Z</dc:date>
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