https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014927#M12838 <P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_0-1726080461420.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408199iFD8E41717EF7DDE7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_0-1726080461420.png" alt="HogueOne_0-1726080461420.png" /></span></P><P><BR />I'm trying to turn this yellow surface into sheet metal. It's fairly straightforward with the cylindrical faces, but this cone shape is not cooperating. In real life we're going to roll it into a cone and then bend the "Flanged" edges at 90 degrees. Inventor doesn't allow you to put a flange on a rolled face even if the edge is clean and flat. I've already tried filleting the corners and thickening the face. when you go to unfold it the flanges aren't folding. Is there a sheet metal expert that can help me with this? I calculate that I will need 11 formed plates to make this design. The attached file has a point cloud I'm referencing which won't resolve for you, but you shouldn't need it.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:53:25 GMT HogueOne 2024-09-11T18:53:25Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014927#M12838 <P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_0-1726080461420.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408199iFD8E41717EF7DDE7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_0-1726080461420.png" alt="HogueOne_0-1726080461420.png" /></span></P><P><BR />I'm trying to turn this yellow surface into sheet metal. It's fairly straightforward with the cylindrical faces, but this cone shape is not cooperating. In real life we're going to roll it into a cone and then bend the "Flanged" edges at 90 degrees. Inventor doesn't allow you to put a flange on a rolled face even if the edge is clean and flat. I've already tried filleting the corners and thickening the face. when you go to unfold it the flanges aren't folding. Is there a sheet metal expert that can help me with this? I calculate that I will need 11 formed plates to make this design. The attached file has a point cloud I'm referencing which won't resolve for you, but you shouldn't need it.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:53:25 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014927#M12838 HogueOne 2024-09-11T18:53:25Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014942#M12839 <P>Hi</P> <P>You need to sketch a longitudinal section (one set of 3 edges, no thickness) and use the Roll forming tool.</P> <P>This way you can even model a cone.&nbsp;</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:59:18 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014942#M12839 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T18:59:18Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014957#M12840 <P>I'm sorry I'm not fully grasping the solution... I imagine you're referring to the contour rolling command, but I don't know how I would use it to create this shape. Could I trouble you to give me a quick demonstration?</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:06:55 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13014957#M12840 HogueOne 2024-09-11T19:06:55Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015001#M12841 <P><div class="lia-vid-container video-embed-center"><div id="lia-vid-6361846956112w894h540r111" class="lia-video-brightcove-player-container"><video-js data-video-id="6361846956112" data-account="6057940548001" data-player="default" data-embed="default" class="vjs-fluid" controls="" data-application-id="" style="width: 100%; height: 100%;"></video-js></div><script src="https://players.brightcove.net/6057940548001/default_default/index.min.js"></script><script>(function() { var wrapper = document.getElementById('lia-vid-6361846956112w894h540r111'); var videoEl = wrapper ? wrapper.querySelector('video-js') : null; if (videoEl) { if (window.videojs) { window.videojs(videoEl).ready(function() { this.on('loadedmetadata', function() { this.el().querySelectorAll('.vjs-load-progress div[data-start]').forEach(function(bar) { bar.setAttribute('role', 'presentation'); bar.setAttribute('aria-hidden', 'true'); }); }); }); } }})();</script><a class="video-embed-link" href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/video/gallerypage/video-id/6361846956112">(view in My Videos)</a></div></P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:25:32 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015001#M12841 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T19:25:32Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015019#M12842 <P>Thank you for the demonstration. I understand how to use the contour roll. Unfortunately this doesn't solve my problem. your flanges are rolling with the contour, and are constructed using the same sketch profile as your base face. the flanges I'm trying to construct are on the ends of the roll. normal to the edge.<BR /><BR /></P><P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_0-1726083291610.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408222i16CA920E20E8CADB/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_0-1726083291610.png" alt="HogueOne_0-1726083291610.png" /></span></P><P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_1-1726083381191.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408223i68356172F692C811/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_1-1726083381191.png" alt="HogueOne_1-1726083381191.png" /></span><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_2-1726083409788.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408224iA5588BBB030F31EF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_2-1726083409788.png" alt="HogueOne_2-1726083409788.png" /></span><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_3-1726083424930.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408225i4081F69270D9549B/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_3-1726083424930.png" alt="HogueOne_3-1726083424930.png" /></span></P><P><BR />This is the end shape that I want. you cannot make this with the contour roll command by itself. Unfortunately the flanges don't unfold, even though realistically they should. Do you understand?</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 19:37:38 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015019#M12842 HogueOne 2024-09-11T19:37:38Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015071#M12843 <P>You can use Unwrap tool.</P> <P>And submit this on Idea Station.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:03:31 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015071#M12843 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T20:03:31Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015103#M12844 <P>This is a great idea. One more question...<BR /><BR /></P><P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_0-1726086226217.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408236i3999F371B25D0A64/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_0-1726086226217.png" alt="HogueOne_0-1726086226217.png" /></span></P><P><BR />How do I get the faces I'm unwrapping to not detatch from the faces I don't want to unwrap? I tried playing with the linear and rigid result behavior and I don't think that's going to help me...</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:25:02 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015103#M12844 HogueOne 2024-09-11T20:25:02Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015106#M12845 <P>Select Auto face chain.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:27:36 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015106#M12845 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T20:27:36Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015107#M12846 <P>I don't want to unwrap the whole surface, just those flange parts. I think I'll have to thicken the surface and use direct edit to rotate the solid back into place.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:29:00 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015107#M12846 HogueOne 2024-09-11T20:29:00Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015116#M12847 <P>Sorry *Merge result body</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:33:43 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015116#M12847 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T20:33:43Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015139#M12848 <P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="HogueOne_0-1726087269882.png" style="width: 600px;"><img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1408244i4D0F1B5526B53568/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;px=400" role="button" title="HogueOne_0-1726087269882.png" alt="HogueOne_0-1726087269882.png" /></span></P><P><BR />I checked merge result body but it didn't seem to make a difference.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:41:31 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015139#M12848 HogueOne 2024-09-11T20:41:31Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015142#M12849 <P>The surfaces should be stitched.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:44:37 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015142#M12849 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T20:44:37Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015144#M12850 <P>They are. I'll have to keep experimenting. But the Unwrap seems to have given me the workaround I needed. Thank you.</P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:46:32 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015144#M12850 HogueOne 2024-09-11T20:46:32Z https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015172#M12851 <P><div class="lia-vid-container video-embed-center"><div id="lia-vid-6361851350112w894h540r430" class="lia-video-brightcove-player-container"><video-js data-video-id="6361851350112" data-account="6057940548001" data-player="default" data-embed="default" class="vjs-fluid" controls="" data-application-id="" style="width: 100%; height: 100%;"></video-js></div><script src="https://players.brightcove.net/6057940548001/default_default/index.min.js"></script><script>(function() { var wrapper = document.getElementById('lia-vid-6361851350112w894h540r430'); var videoEl = wrapper ? wrapper.querySelector('video-js') : null; if (videoEl) { if (window.videojs) { window.videojs(videoEl).ready(function() { this.on('loadedmetadata', function() { this.el().querySelectorAll('.vjs-load-progress div[data-start]').forEach(function(bar) { bar.setAttribute('role', 'presentation'); bar.setAttribute('aria-hidden', 'true'); }); }); }); } }})();</script><a class="video-embed-link" href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/video/gallerypage/video-id/6361851350112">(view in My Videos)</a></div></P> Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:09:09 GMT https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-forum/cannot-flat-pattern/m-p/13015172#M12851 kacper.suchomski 2024-09-11T21:09:09Z