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BOM structure for model states

dimamazutaMMJ32 — Thu, 20 May 2021 18:10:35 GMT

Hello!

I have a problem in model state with suppressed parts. I don`t understand how to exclude suppressed parts from BOM in model states №1 and left them in BOM in model state №2.

Re: BOM structure for model states

mcgyvr — Thu, 20 May 2021 19:20:39 GMT

Sounds like you haven't changed to "Member Scope" and may be set to "Factory Scope"

Press the "Pencil" icon next to the model states folder or select it from the dropdown in the drop down of the author section on the manage tab.

Re: BOM structure for model states

dimamazutaMMJ32 — Thu, 20 May 2021 19:45:20 GMT

I can suppress the part in the model state №1 and at the same time it will be displayed in the model state №2. In this area model statec is good for me.
But in BOM i see all parts: active and suppressed (i know that suppressed parts counts as 0). So in drawing of model state №1 part list show all parts and I must to set invisibility by my hands.
This way is to heavy for assemblies of 100 parts and maybe I am on wrong way. So I'm wondering if there is another way to control the display of parts in the BOM and parts list.

Re: BOM structure for model states

johnsonshiue — Thu, 20 May 2021 20:57:43 GMT

Hi! Are the suppressed components showing as zero quantity in BOM and PartsList? If yes, it is indeed the behavior in 2022.

If you are seeing suppressed components showing non-zero quantity, either the assembly has migrated LOD (Master BOM) or there is a bug.

Many thanks!

Re: BOM structure for model states

dimamazutaMMJ32 — Fri, 21 May 2021 05:16:44 GMT

Yes, suppressed components are showing as zero quantity in BOM and PartList. If this is normal in 2022 is there a possibility to to remove the suppressed parts from the specification?

Re: BOM structure for model states

johnsonshiue — Fri, 21 May 2021 15:37:35 GMT

Hi! Unfortunately, the ability to hide entire suppressed component row in BOM and PartsList is not implemented.

Many thanks!

Re: BOM structure for model states

RStancescu — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:40:16 GMT

Hi Johnson

One more question regarding this subject.... If a component in an assembly has a "Simplified" model state and assembly has a Simplified model state, they can be linked. (that works fine)

For the part, I have a different description for the model state Simplified than the Master.

When I show the Parts List in the drawing for the assembly in the Master or Simplified, that part with model states only shows description for the master state even if I have a Simplified view of the assembly.

In the link bellow,

knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2022/ENU/Inventor-WhatsNew/files/GUID-AF380945-50B6-48B3-9D3A-578B85FFA260-htm.html

it says this:

Drawings

You can select a model state when creating a drawing view. A Parts List displays the selected model state members and their iProperties.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2022/ENU/Inventor-WhatsNew/files/GUID-AF380945-50B6-48B3-9D3A-578B85FFA260-htm.html

What am I doing wrong? The description is an iproperty for the part.

Thank you for your support.

radu

Re: BOM structure for model states

johnsonshiue — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 18:32:20 GMT

Hi Radu,

It should work as the Help described. It could be a bug or something was not set right. If possible, please share an example that exhibits the behavior. I would like to understand the behavior better.

Many thanks!

Re: BOM structure for model states

RStancescu — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:47:35 GMT

Hi Johnson,

Thank you for you rreply.

I’m in vacation now; you can just create a new iam, with a new part with two model states; add the part to iam, link together the model states and check in a drawing when you switch a view from master to a state; I tested description si company as iproperties. The Parts List doesn’t update when view changes to a model state.

Cheers

radu

Re: BOM structure for model states

johnsonshiue — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:24:43 GMT

Hi Radu,

I just tried the workflow and it seems to work for me. The partslist will update based on the Model State selected in the view. After you change the Model State, you will get prompted if you want to update the partslist. Choose one of the two Yes'.

If it still does not work, please share the example after you come back from vacation. I would like to understand it better.

Many thanks!

Re: BOM structure for model states

darren.reynoldsCWR6V — Wed, 16 Mar 2022 05:05:24 GMT

Hi What I have been doing is firstly making the part a reference part before I suppress it it then does not appear in the parts BOM list.

Re: BOM structure for model states

dhaval.chauhanEUZNU — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 08:42:15 GMT

hello,

there is another way to filter to show only balloned item in part list, may be it will work for you.

Go to Bill of material > filter setting > definine filter item from drop down manu> Ballooned item only

Re: BOM structure for model states

darren.reynoldsCWR6V — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 01:08:23 GMT

MAKE THEM REFERENCE BEFORE YOU SUPPRESS THEM THAT WORKS

Re: BOM structure for model states

gbrisbinUZ9NP — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 15:20:02 GMT

I don't see why this is necessary, but it does work.

Re: BOM structure for model states

johnsonshiue — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 23:47:44 GMT

Hi! I think the Model States in the assembly are migrated LODs, right? If yes, the Model State BOM is delegated to the Primary Model State. This behavior is to ensure there would be no change to the migrated legacy drawing. If you want to leverage the new Model States BOM behaviors in such drawing, the migrated LOD will need to be deleted and recreated. Here is the procedure to do that

Copy the Model State to Design View -> delete the Model State -> copy the Design View to Model State.

Many thanks!

Re: BOM structure for model states

maulik_patel — Fri, 28 Jul 2023 19:09:46 GMT

Hi!

You may want to click on 'BOM setting' and check option for 'Hide Suppressed Component in BOM'.

Thank you

Re: BOM structure for model states

dimamazutaMMJ32 — Sat, 05 Aug 2023 18:16:39 GMT

It's not exactly what i had in that situation and i need to do additional manipulations, but the solution is suitable.