topic Re: Image Modeler still available ? in Installation & Licensing Forum

Image Modeler still available ?

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 09:10:41 GMT

Several versions back ( Max 2012, I think) there was this extra programm called Image Modeler part of the license.

I can't find it anymore.

Any possibility to get access to it again?

Kind regards, Peter Stulz

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

Alfred.DeFlaminis — Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:33:06 GMT

Hello @Anonymous and welcome to the community,

That shipped with Max 2010 and was End-Of-Lifed in 2012. I am not sure if it can be activated, but I'll move this thread to Installation and Licensing to see if they have a better idea.

Best Regards,

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

natasha.l — Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:53:38 GMT

Hello @Anonymous,

Autodesk provides support for current version & three versions back (2014 through 2017) in addition enchantments or plugins for products.

If the download you need is not located within the Virtual Agent, please contact Customer Care to see if your product is still available, but please note that any older unsupported versions can become unavailable at any time.

Thank you for posting.

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

BenBisares — Tue, 11 Apr 2017 09:16:25 GMT

I would like to know would you like to try ImageModeler?

The reason I ask is that the reason it no longer exists is that there wasn't much adoption by customers and from my own experiments I never found it good enough considering the time spent (i.e taking multiple photos, import and setup in the program, and tweaking to get acceptable results). Maybe good enough for Google Maps type buildings but not for technical drawings or photo realistic renderings.

My experience was that the best results came from the simpler architecture with flat walls and square shapes, so no Antoni Gaudí work. Also it was very difficult to get good textures as there were always things like trees and vehicles in the way.

My suggestion as an alternative workflow would be some combination of ReCap/Remake and 3ds Max. You could use the ReCap photo to mesh tool to capture the textures. Then in 3ds Max create a simple object to represent the building as use the projection modifier to take the texture from the ReCap mesh an applyit to the Max base object.

Thoughts?

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:53:19 GMT

Hello Ben,

Good to see that somebody looks into it thoroughly.

Sad to hear, that it got so little adoption. I guess it is a tool for a very specific use:

If you have few images of a largely orthogonal spatial configuration.

In our case we have an artistic project about reconstructing spaces with only a small set of photos. The spaces are not accessible any more / have changed, so 3d-reconstruction is not possible.

I rememered the image modeler being the right tool for that.

I guess that would be valid for many historic reconstructions, when only few photos are available.

Hope that clarified our use.

Thanks for looking into it!

Best regards, Peter Stulz

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 18:24:08 GMT

Yes, it is still in demand, but few people know about Image Modeler since it is not available now.

But the Image Modeler has one big plus (which is not related to architecture), it can calibrate photos from different angles, different lighting and even the color of the model. And this is essentially only an available solution for this situation because this cannot be done with the photogrammetry pipeline. An example is the calibration of a photo of cars, they can quite reflective (Photogrammetry does not like this, but Image Modeler can do it), different light, image, model with different colors, you can even calibrate the interior of the car. After that, place modeling locators on all models and export all this with locators and cameras to Maya. Draw curves around locators and put images on the cameras and get an almost perfect 3D blueprint.

In any case, there is no good alternative for this now.

Well, as another example, my old work was done with such a pipeline. The accuracy is very high. In the attached image.

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

snaithing — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 20:47:25 GMT

Hey, this is a really old thread but I'm looking for image modeller for some old files and I can tell you, it absolutely did create photorealistic characters. In fact it created a head from a photoset that modern equivelants cannot!

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

DarrenP — Mon, 08 Aug 2022 12:56:18 GMT

this went away a decade ago

look at Recap Pro with Recap Photo

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

kwhndr — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:03:29 GMT

Hi mr alfred. If I find a copy and download it, will it be legal?

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

DarrenP — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 19:20:51 GMT

since Autodesk doesn’t provide licenses anymore you can install it if you find a copy but eventually it will expire

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

kwhndr — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 07:43:09 GMT

Sorry, I don't understand how it expires

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

mdavis22569 — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:45:50 GMT

@kwhndr

Do to your account manager and download it

If you don't have it then:

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https://www.autodesk.com/products/recap/overview?term=1-YEAR&tab=subscription

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

DarrenP — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 10:53:27 GMT

a trial doesn’t last forever which is all you get without a license

not quite sure why you need software that was discontinued over a decade ago anyway

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

kwhndr — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 16:25:33 GMT

I need it to be a replacement for car blueprints, and I have not found any other program that helps me in an effective way.

Thank you for the clarification

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

DarrenP — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:00:46 GMT

what are you doing with the car blueprints?

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

kwhndr — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 18:43:05 GMT

Create a 3D car

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

DarrenP — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 19:37:40 GMT

this was already posted above

did you try this:https://www.autodesk.com/solutions/photogrammetry-software

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

DarrenP — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 19:46:09 GMT

also found this 3rd party tool: https://www.photomodeler.com/

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

kwhndr — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 18:01:37 GMT

These programs are for scanning. I want calibration

This is what I want

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJcDD3zOXxI&t=1648s

Re: Image Modeler still available ?

markus — Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:41:39 GMT

photomodeller (above) seems to have a manual calibration mode just like image modeller.

Did you find any other solutions? I wonder if reality capture would work. You can align photos manually with points. You can also export cameras and images to Blender. Not sure if you can export the points too.