topic Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model. in HSM Support Forum

HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:39:18 GMT

I've been having an issue lately with HSMXpress. I have a SolidWorks assembly with another assembly in it. In the larger assembly I have 7 CNC operations in it. If I'm in the CAM tree tab and move anything on the model HSMXpress pops up with two windows around 20 times each! The first one says "Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model. Regenerate now? " and "The model has been modified and requires a rebuild. Rebuild now?". This happens even if I move something unrelated to the tool paths.

If I am on the feature tree tab I don't get this message.

I'm using SW2017 X64 SP 3.0 and HSMXpress 2018 R3.42596

Is there any way I to stop this from happening?

Thanks,

Mike

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

Marco.Takx — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 20:30:14 GMT

Hi @rothmetalworks,

What you mean is: you have programmed some part within a Assembly.

After made some changes on the assembly “Knowing there is nothing changed on the programmed model” (part isn’t changed or moved) the toolpaths have to be regeneraties.

This is normal. HSM detect a change. You can set the toolpaths to protect (right mouse click on toolpath -> protect) before making changes in your Assembly.

But still I advice to regenerate before posting your NC.

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Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 01:46:53 GMT

Not really. I understand that it needs to regenerate, but I'd rather it just invalidated the toolpath so I have to regenerate it myself rather than taking several minutes and a dozen or more mouse clicks any time I make a change.

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

Laurens-3DTechDraw — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:43:00 GMT

Could you make a video of it?

Because I understand what you are experiencing but it's tricky to explain to people the difference between the two edits and why one of them is very annoying due to the pop-ups.

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:34:56 GMT

Attached is a video of it. For some reason it didn't capture the pop-ups, but every time the mouse arrow comes back I'm clicking OK on one of the windows. It takes almost 2 minutes to get thru it.

The screencast is still pending. I'll update as soon as it's ready.

Try this link: http://autode.sk/2hJm2qu

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Thu, 09 Nov 2017 13:25:48 GMT

Does anyone have any ideas, or is this something that has to go to the developers?

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:06:46 GMT

Marco, Laurens, Do you have any suggestions? Can you forward this issue to development if you don't?

Thanks,

Mike

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:09:48 GMT

Laurens, Do you have any suggestions? Can you forward this issue to development if you don't?

Thanks,

Mike

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

Marco.Takx — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:23:15 GMT

Hi @rothmetalworks,

We all really like to help but only seeing that move we don't know where this messages came from.

If it is possible to share these files we can take a look at it and try to find the reason for this failure.

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

rothmetalworks — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:31:30 GMT

I've attached the file as a pack and go .zip.

Thanks,

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

lenny_1962 — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:05:29 GMT

well you need to tell us your using configurations first, you also need to protect the operation once you're done with a config.

then the toolpathes won't be rebuilt causing the long delay. another trick say no\cancel and it will stop or turn off automatic regeneration.

I looked at your configs and the last one is the only OK one the other are blown up

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

talonhead — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 00:52:12 GMT

Similar to the OP, I just want to know where I can disable any message such as this one. I do not need for HSMWorks to tell me the model is invalidated with every little change made. I generate toolpaths and/or rebuild when it is necessary and not any sooner.

Merely clicking "no" does not do the trick. That popup shows up every time. It's annoying and gobbles up resources.

Thoughts?

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

lenny_1962 — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:50:12 GMT

Are you protecting the operations?

Are you using HSMWorks in an Assembly or part?

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

talonhead — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:53:22 GMT

I do all toolpaths mostly in assemblies...but I've seen the annoying popup happen in single part files as well.

Don't know what you mean by "protecting the operations". Do tell.

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

lenny_1962 — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 15:33:32 GMT

SEE PIC

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

talonhead — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:11:09 GMT

That's all well and good. Thanks for sharing that.

But still...is there not a way in prefs (or similar) to turn any of the notifications off? "Protected" just seems like a work around. Maybe an entirely different reason why you'd use it altogether.

It would be nice if the pop up box had a tick box that merely said "do not show again". Common with most popups.

Thoughts?

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

lenny_1962 — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:21:11 GMT

sorry to say it's been this way since before Autodesk bought HSMWorks.

just give it a try and before you know it it will part of your daily programming norm, I love it.

I can control when I need to regen the toolpath, how many time have you had to change or suppress or make a config to simplify the part to make it machine better, those simple things may not need to have the roughing toolpath changed so I protect them and for get about them cause there done.

I B I T C H E D too then started to use and it makes life so much simpler now.

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

talonhead — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:31:56 GMT

I know it's been that way for many years...but I just decided to say something about it now. 🙂

I'll give it a try as you suggest. Just the older I get, it gets harder to adapt even small changes in workflow. 🙂

Thanks for the input.

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

lenny_1962 — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:50:17 GMT

DUD I'm 57 and the older I get I am finally just doing what they say so I can go home earlier and ride the Harley 😉

Re: HSMXpress Operations have been invalidated due to changes in the model.

talonhead — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 21:00:49 GMT

lol I kind of figured that by the "62" in your user name. Well, you're blazing the trail for me by 5 years! I don't get to go home early to ride any Harley...but I do get to jam to Dubstep on a daily basis. 🙂

Thanks again for your input brother.