topic Re: Turning on other side of z axis in HSM Support Forum

Turning on other side of z axis

yoshimitsuspeed — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:02:09 GMT

We have a Gildemeister NEF 320. X positive moves away from the operator. Default HSMworks seems to want all operations on the positive side of the head. For most operations this works with CCW rotation. If you select a clockwise tool it inverts the tool instead of moving the operation over to the negative side of the head/Z axis line.
If we want to do a CW operation on the negative side of the Z axis how do we set it up to do so?

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

akash.kamoolkar — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:10:10 GMT

@yoshimitsuspeed

Assuming you're referring to machining with tools oriented towards -X on the bottom of the part, currently you cannot do this in HSMWorks. However, this particular feature is on our roadmap for Fusion 360.

Regards,

Akash Kamoolkar

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

yoshimitsuspeed — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:54:26 GMT

I'm not sure what you mean by the bottom of the part but maybe this pic will help. With the tools oriented similar to the ones sitting on the cross slide so with the inserts facing upward and with the spindle spinning in counter clockwise rotation. This would put boring operations cutting in the -x direction, and outer turning operations cutting in the +x direction.
As another reference in the more traditional setup for most manual turning.

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

yoshimitsuspeed — Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:56:18 GMT

Ugh I just realized I got clockwise and counterclockwise backwards in my first post and now it won't seem to let me edit it.

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

yoshimitsuspeed — Tue, 02 Feb 2021 23:20:16 GMT

I am starting to get the impression that any time AD doesn't reply to a thread it means there is no easy solution and they want to pretend the problem doesn't exist. Am I to assume that is correct in this situation as well?

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

daniel.pacific — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 13:51:02 GMT

No, you just were not very clear in describing what the actual problem is and this is a community forum which is monitored by AD.
From what I can tell this is either a post issue or an awareness issue. The software is machine agnostic, which means the WCS in the software does not mimic your machine tool. It would be impossible to follow that for all the variants of machine coordinates out there for TurnMill machines.

What post are you using?

What does the code look like?

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

yoshimitsuspeed — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 23:33:12 GMT

I thought I had been clear but I guess not.
This has nothing to do with post. It is about trying to get the toolpath to generate in the correct direction in CAM.

For example in this video the spindle is rotating in CCW or forward rotation with a right hand boring bar cutting on the operator side of the Z axis. On our machine this would be cutting in the negative x direction. Positive x is moving away from the operator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOll5xUfHHw

If we try to create an operation with a right hand boring bar and forward rotation it will invert the cutter and cut on the back side in the positive X direction.
I can't figure out how to get it to reverse everything so it cuts in on the side and direction as shown in the video. Or what would be conventional boring on a manual machine.

Re: Turning on other side of z axis

yoshimitsuspeed — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 18:04:12 GMT

Just tried to contact support for this issue and my other post question. Instead of being able to call support it gives me the option to schedule a call between 11PM and 5AM.
That's some BS.