topic Re: Hurco Post processor 2024 in HSM Post Processor Forum

Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 03:27:52 GMT

Hurco post processor from Fusion library.

Chamfer toolpath 3-operations,

1-chamfer top of part

2-chamfer left side hole

3-chamfer right side hole

swivel head crashes into part.

(view in My Videos)

Chamfer toolpath 2-operations,

2-chamfer left side hole

3-chamfer right side hole

swivel head doesn't crash into part.

(view in My Videos)

From what I can see the crash only occurs when using 1 tool to do operations on multiple faces in this order. The approach after chamfering top of part always crashes into the part. Hope somebody can help.

Thanks Charles

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 06:39:07 GMT

Hi Charles,

thanks for your feedback! Have you actually tested the code on a machine?
If you look at the NC program in your first video, you will see that there is a G8.2 line that executes the Hurco ASR (Automatic Safe Repositioning) feature, so I doubt that a crash actually happens in reality, which would then mean that the simulation doesn't show the actual machine behavior in this case.

It would be very helpful if you could do a test on a real machine and ideally make a video of its movements.

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:13:50 GMT

Yes, I do have access. Hopefully I can report back today with a video. Thank you so much!

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:27:59 GMT

Update! I did run a test on a Hurco VMX 60 SRTI. It ran correctly as you suggested. I didn't get to make a video today but hopefully tomorrow. In the meanwhile, is there a possible solution for the simulation error?

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 06:43:49 GMT

That sounds good, thanks for testing!
To properly fix the simulation problem, we'd need the video showing the machine movements along with the Fusion file.

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:08:15 GMT

Here is the machine video running the code produced by the first video in this thread. It doesn't crash into the part like the simulation shows. It also retracts to machine zero when indexing the C-axis which is a good bit with a 60" table. I have seen how to fix this if using the conversational control on the machine but not anything that is working for NC programming or the Fusion post. Hope you guys can help with this.

Thanks Charles

(view in My Videos)

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:11:04 GMT

I tried to upload the fusion files, but it won't let me...says wrong file type. File type was .f3z

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:35:17 GMT

Tried sending the files again...still not letting me reply with the file attachment.

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 05:23:37 GMT

Thanks a lot for the video, that is very helpful!
Its probably the easiest if you would just share the link to your file. To get that link, right click on your Fusion file and select "Share Link":

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 13:19:35 GMT

Try this...

https://a360.co/49Ict3Z

Hope this helps!

Charles

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Thu, 19 Dec 2024 13:35:56 GMT

Excellent, that worked, thanks Charles!

We will look into the post and try to get that issue fixed ASAP.
I'll keep you posted.

Thanks again!

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:14:42 GMT

Just wanted to check back with you on this. Just wasn't sure what to expect on potential solutions.

Thanks Charles

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Fri, 10 Jan 2025 05:27:29 GMT

Hi Charles,

I think I found the problem, its fixed in the attached post.
Can you please give it a try and provide feedback?
Thanks!

(view in My Videos)

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Tue, 14 Jan 2025 21:46:54 GMT

Hi AchimN,

Here is a new video with the updated post processor you attached using M140. The simulation doesn't simulate the M140, it should be retracting to machine zero in X like in the video. The lack of a G53 Z0 at the end of the program is causing the spindle to approach the table, not sure why. The first video of the actual machine movement I sent must have been posted without a M140. It's the only way it would've ran like that, my apologies! I really appreciate your help, understanding just how the HURCO Intelligent Automatic Safe Repositioning works has been bit of a challenge for me.

(view in My Videos)

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Wed, 15 Jan 2025 06:05:04 GMT

Thanks a lot for your feedback @AllFyve !!

Yes it seems that your initial video was made without the M140 option being active.
In the attached post the M140 move should now also be simulated properly. In addition, I´ve modified the post to output G53 Zxx right after the M140 since i think it is needed in order to be into a safe position when indexing the rotaries.

(view in My Videos)

Any feedback is very welcome 🙂

Thanks!

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:32:34 GMT

Hi AchimN,

The simulation and actual machine movements are now in tune...awesome! Thank you very much for this. It would be nice if the post properties had the option to add an L token with input for desired value to the M140 as well as the G08.2 that is added when G68.2 is selected in the post properties. As it stands you must edit the posted program from Fusion if you wish to have any control over the approaches and retracts being the G08.2 disables the Hurco Intelligent ASR. Here is a video showing the hurco_01.cps post using the L tokens along with the code for the operations we have been using. Also, using anything greater than M140 L0.0 at the beginning of the program will cause a Z axis over travel.

Thanks for all your help AchimN!!!

Charles

(view in My Videos)

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(Machine)

( vendor: Hurco)

( model: VMX60SRTi)

( description: Hurco VMX60SRTi)

(T5 D=0.5 CR=0. TAPER=45deg - chamfer mill)

N1 G90 G17 G40 G80

N2 G20

N3 M59

N4 M31

N5 M126

N6 G0 M140 L0.0

N7 G53 G0 Z0.

N8 G69

N9 M35

N10 M13

N11 G0 B0. C0.

(2D Chamfer1)

N12 T5 M6

N13 S5730 M3

N14 G43 H5

N15 G17 G90 G94

N16 G54

N17 G0 M140 L0.0

N18 G53 G0 Z0.

N19 G69

N20 G68.2 X0. Y0. Z0. B0. C0.

N21 G8.2 X-2.77 Y1.5475 Z0.6 B0. C0. L3.0

N22 M34

N23 M12

N24 M8

N25 G1 X-2.77 Y1.5475 Z0.6 F200.

N26 G0 Z0.2

N27 G1 Z0.08 F22.92

N28 Z-0.075

N29 G19 G2 Y1.5275 Z-0.095 J-0.02 K0. F68.75

N30 G1 Y1.5075

N31 G17 G3 X-2.75 Y1.4875 I0.02 J0.

N32 G1 X2.75

N33 G2 X3.05 Y1.1875 I0. J-0.3

N34 G1 Y-1.1875

N35 G2 X2.75 Y-1.4875 I-0.3 J0.

N36 G1 X-2.75

N37 G2 X-3.05 Y-1.1875 I0. J0.3

N38 G1 Y1.1875

N39 G2 X-2.75 Y1.4875 I0.3 J0.

N40 G1 X-2.74

N41 G3 X-2.72 Y1.5075 I0. J0.02

N42 G1 Y1.5275

N43 G19 G3 Y1.5475 Z-0.075 J0. K0.02

N44 G0 Z0.6

N45 G17

N46 G0 M140 L0.0

N47 G53 G0 Z0.

(2D Chamfer3)

N48 G0 M140 L0.0

N49 G53 G0 Z0.

N50 M35

N51 M13

N52 G69

N53 G0 B-90. C90.

N54 G68.2 X0. Y0. Z0. B-90. C90.

N55 G8.2 X-0.925 Y-0.0775 Z2.1 B-90. C90. L3.0

N56 M34

N57 M12

N58 G1 X-0.925 Y-0.0775 F200.

N59 G0 Z2.1

N60 Z1.7

N61 G1 Z1.58 F22.92

N62 Z1.3925

N63 G19 G2 Y-0.0975 Z1.3725 J-0.02 K0. F68.75

N64 G1 Y-0.1175

N65 G17 G3 X-0.905 Y-0.1375 I0.02 J0.

N66 Y0.1375 I0. J0.1375

N67 X-1.0424 Y-0.005 I0. J-0.1375

N68 X-0.895 Y-0.1371 I0.1374 J0.005

N69 X-0.8765 Y-0.1157 I-0.0015 J0.0199

N70 G1 X-0.878 Y-0.0958

N71 X-0.8782 Y-0.0923 Z1.3728

N72 X-0.8785 Y-0.089 Z1.3737

N73 X-0.8787 Y-0.0858 Z1.3752

N74 X-0.8789 Y-0.083 Z1.3772

N75 X-0.8791 Y-0.0805 Z1.3796

N76 X-0.8792 Y-0.0785 Z1.3825

N77 X-0.8793 Y-0.077 Z1.3857

N78 X-0.8794 Y-0.0761 Z1.389

N79 Y-0.0758 Z1.3925

N80 G0 Z2.1

N81 G0 M140 L0.0

N82 G53 G0 Z0.

(2D Chamfer5)

N83 G0 M140 L0.0

N84 G53 G0 Z0.

N85 M35

N86 M13

N87 G69

N88 G0 B-90. C-90.

N89 G68.2 X0. Y0. Z0. B-90. C-90.

N90 G8.2 X-0.925 Y-0.0775 Z2.1 B-90. C-90. L3.0

N91 M34

N92 M12

N93 G1 X-0.925 Y-0.0775 F200.

N94 G0 Z2.1

N95 Z1.7

N96 G1 Z1.58 F22.92

N97 Z1.3925

N98 G19 G2 Y-0.0975 Z1.3725 J-0.02 K0. F68.75

N99 G1 Y-0.1175

N100 G17 G3 X-0.905 Y-0.1375 I0.02 J0.

N101 Y0.1375 I0. J0.1375

N102 X-1.0424 Y-0.005 I0. J-0.1375

N103 X-0.895 Y-0.1371 I0.1374 J0.005

N104 X-0.8765 Y-0.1157 I-0.0015 J0.0199

N105 G1 X-0.878 Y-0.0958

N106 X-0.8782 Y-0.0923 Z1.3728

N107 X-0.8785 Y-0.089 Z1.3737

N108 X-0.8787 Y-0.0858 Z1.3752

N109 X-0.8789 Y-0.083 Z1.3772

N110 X-0.8791 Y-0.0805 Z1.3796

N111 X-0.8792 Y-0.0785 Z1.3825

N112 X-0.8793 Y-0.077 Z1.3857

N113 X-0.8794 Y-0.0761 Z1.389

N114 Y-0.0758 Z1.3925

N115 G0 Z2.1

N116 M9

N117 G69

N118 G0 M140 L0.0

N119 G53 G0 Z0.

N120 M31

N121 M35

N122 M13

N123 G0 B0. C0.

N124 M127

N125 G53 G0 X47.2441 Y25.9843

N126 M61

N127 M2

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AchimN — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 07:08:51 GMT

Excellent, thanks for all your feedback and for providing the videos of the machine movements, that was very helpful!

I will go ahead then and update the library post.

Regarding the "L" option for the G08.2 ASR cycle, it should be no problem to make this a property into the post for the NC output, but I am afraid that machine simulation cannot handle this special case at the moment.

Re: Hurco Post processor 2024

AllFyve — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 14:51:24 GMT

Will the "L" option be added for the M140 as well?

Thanks AchimN

Charles