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    <title>topic Haas NGC post fails on indexed 4th axis tapping (DWO disabled) — why isn't this supported out of the box? in HSM Post Processor Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I'm running Fusion 360 CAM on a &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Haas TM2-P with an HRT 4th axis rotary table&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;. Machine definition is configured correctly. DWO/TCPC is not used — this machine does not support it (common on Haas 3 axis machines with upfit 4th axis). All 4th axis operations are &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;indexed positioning only&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; — the A axis moves to a position, clamps, and sits there while the spindle does the work.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I post a tapping operation at any indexed rotary position (e.g., A-90 or A180), I get this error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;Error: Canned cycle 'tapping' is expanded, but following
command is not supported by post.
Unsupported speed-feed synchronization activation command.
Error in operation: '10-24 Tap'
Failed while processing onCycle() for record 2021.&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;After opening a support case (&lt;STRONG&gt;Case #25893545&lt;/STRONG&gt;), Autodesk confirmed the root cause: when the post detects that the spindle axis and the forward direction of the section don't match — which happens at any indexed rotary position — it forces the tapping canned cycle to expand instead of outputting a native G84. The expanded cycle then fails because it cannot write the sync command.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;What is the current "safe" workaround?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The only reliable workaround short of editing post source code that will then require testing, is:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Create a duplicate setup with no machine definition (3-axis mode)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Post the tapping operations from that setup to get valid G84 output&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Hand-edit the resulting NC file to insert the correct A-axis index moves before each set of holes&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let that sink in. The recommended path for a standard shop operation on a standard machine is to &lt;STRONG&gt;hand-edit G-code&lt;/STRONG&gt; — bypassing all simulation, verification, and back plot in the process. Any downstream change to feeds, depths, or positions requires repeating the entire manual process. This is not a workflow. This is a liability.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Why is this not fixed in the shipping post?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is not an exotic configuration:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Haas TM2-P — one of the most common brands in North American job shops&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Haas HRT rotary table — standard hardware&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Haas NGC post — Autodesk's own actively maintained post for this exact control&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Indexed rigid tapping at a rotary position — one of the most routine 4th axis operations in existence&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Autodesk support provided a fix: a &lt;STRONG&gt;~10-line edit&lt;/STRONG&gt; to the .cps file that adds a conditional exception allowing tapping canned cycles to pass through when DWO is disabled and the section is not a true multi-axis move. That fix is known, but they &lt;STRONG&gt;won't say it works&lt;/STRONG&gt;, and it is not in the shipping post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The result is that every Fusion 360 user running a standard &lt;STRONG&gt;Haas NGC machine with a rotary and no DWO&lt;/STRONG&gt; hits a hard post failure on tapping and is told post customization is outside standard support scope. Most machinists are not developers. The alternative — hand-editing NC files outside of simulation — introduces real risk of crashes, broken tools, and scrapped parts.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I am requesting:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This fix be incorporated into the official Haas NGC post in the Fusion cloud library&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This case be escalated as a confirmed software defect, not closed as a support request&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone else hit this? Is there an existing bug report or ideas post I can add my vote to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Environment: Fusion 360 (latest) · Haas NGC post (latest cloud library) · Haas TM2-P + HRT · DWO: disabled · Indexed rigid tapping · A-90 · A180&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 21:20:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>nate.schnase</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-05-11T21:20:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Haas NGC post fails on indexed 4th axis tapping (DWO disabled) — why isn't this supported out of the box?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm-post-processor-forum/haas-ngc-post-fails-on-indexed-4th-axis-tapping-dwo-disabled-why/m-p/14125574#M29982</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I'm running Fusion 360 CAM on a &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Haas TM2-P with an HRT 4th axis rotary table&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;. Machine definition is configured correctly. DWO/TCPC is not used — this machine does not support it (common on Haas 3 axis machines with upfit 4th axis). All 4th axis operations are &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;indexed positioning only&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; — the A axis moves to a position, clamps, and sits there while the spindle does the work.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I post a tapping operation at any indexed rotary position (e.g., A-90 or A180), I get this error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;Error: Canned cycle 'tapping' is expanded, but following
command is not supported by post.
Unsupported speed-feed synchronization activation command.
Error in operation: '10-24 Tap'
Failed while processing onCycle() for record 2021.&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;After opening a support case (&lt;STRONG&gt;Case #25893545&lt;/STRONG&gt;), Autodesk confirmed the root cause: when the post detects that the spindle axis and the forward direction of the section don't match — which happens at any indexed rotary position — it forces the tapping canned cycle to expand instead of outputting a native G84. The expanded cycle then fails because it cannot write the sync command.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;What is the current "safe" workaround?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The only reliable workaround short of editing post source code that will then require testing, is:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Create a duplicate setup with no machine definition (3-axis mode)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Post the tapping operations from that setup to get valid G84 output&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Hand-edit the resulting NC file to insert the correct A-axis index moves before each set of holes&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Let that sink in. The recommended path for a standard shop operation on a standard machine is to &lt;STRONG&gt;hand-edit G-code&lt;/STRONG&gt; — bypassing all simulation, verification, and back plot in the process. Any downstream change to feeds, depths, or positions requires repeating the entire manual process. This is not a workflow. This is a liability.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Why is this not fixed in the shipping post?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is not an exotic configuration:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Haas TM2-P — one of the most common brands in North American job shops&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Haas HRT rotary table — standard hardware&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Haas NGC post — Autodesk's own actively maintained post for this exact control&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Indexed rigid tapping at a rotary position — one of the most routine 4th axis operations in existence&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Autodesk support provided a fix: a &lt;STRONG&gt;~10-line edit&lt;/STRONG&gt; to the .cps file that adds a conditional exception allowing tapping canned cycles to pass through when DWO is disabled and the section is not a true multi-axis move. That fix is known, but they &lt;STRONG&gt;won't say it works&lt;/STRONG&gt;, and it is not in the shipping post.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The result is that every Fusion 360 user running a standard &lt;STRONG&gt;Haas NGC machine with a rotary and no DWO&lt;/STRONG&gt; hits a hard post failure on tapping and is told post customization is outside standard support scope. Most machinists are not developers. The alternative — hand-editing NC files outside of simulation — introduces real risk of crashes, broken tools, and scrapped parts.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I am requesting:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This fix be incorporated into the official Haas NGC post in the Fusion cloud library&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;This case be escalated as a confirmed software defect, not closed as a support request&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone else hit this? Is there an existing bug report or ideas post I can add my vote to?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Environment: Fusion 360 (latest) · Haas NGC post (latest cloud library) · Haas TM2-P + HRT · DWO: disabled · Indexed rigid tapping · A-90 · A180&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 21:20:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>nate.schnase</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-05-11T21:20:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Haas NGC post fails on indexed 4th axis tapping (DWO disabled) — why isn't this supported out of the box?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm-post-processor-forum/haas-ngc-post-fails-on-indexed-4th-axis-tapping-dwo-disabled-why/m-p/14126522#M29984</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;✓ Resolved — Root Cause Found&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;LI-CODE lang="general"&gt;TL;DR
FIX: Open your machine configuration → find the TCP setting → disable it. 
G84 will post correctly immediately.
Why: Machine config overrides the post processor selections for TCPC and DWO&lt;/LI-CODE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem was not the post processor itself — it was a &lt;STRONG&gt;TCP (Tool Center Point) flag enabled in the machine configuration&lt;/STRONG&gt; inside Fusion. With TCP enabled in the machine config, the post treats every operation as a full simultaneous multi-axis move — including tapping canned cycles — which triggers the cycle expansion and the resulting sync command error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Critical details:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;This machine config has worked for this in the past and only after the April update did this become a problem.&amp;nbsp; I had already disabled both DWO and TCP in the &lt;STRONG&gt;post processor properties&lt;/STRONG&gt; with no effect. The error persisted until I disabled TCP directly in the &lt;STRONG&gt;machine configuration&lt;/STRONG&gt;. (which I didn't turn on or off at any point prior to the issue) The post-level toggles are overridden by the machine config — which is not documented or intuitive. You will not find this fix by adjusting post settings alone.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This configuration had been working fine for previous programs. A recent Fusion update either added the TCP flag to the machine definition and defaulted it on, or began actively honoring a flag that previous post versions ignored. Either way, a working setup broke silently after an update with no warning.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 14:40:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>nate.schnase</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-05-12T14:40:29Z</dc:date>
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