topic Re: Tubing Specs in Fusion Educators (Read-Only)

Tubing Specs

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:00:52 GMT

Are there Tubing Spec Catalogues, for items such as Swagelok Fittings, to be able to route tubing as you would Piping in AutoCAD Plant 3D?

Re: Tubing Specs

Tomislav.Golubovic — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:44:15 GMT

Have you checked the App Store?

Re: Tubing Specs

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 12:45:43 GMT

Thank you, Tomislav.Golubovic… I did try the Autodesk App Store, but could not find any Tubing Catalogues...

sincerely,

Patrick

Re: Tubing Specs

Tomislav.Golubovic — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 23:18:41 GMT

You'll have to get data sheets from the vendor and then make your own catalog, or employ someone to make them for you

Re: Tubing Specs

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Jun 2019 17:17:58 GMT

There are tubing catalogues available from the content store:

https://apps.autodesk.com/PLNT3D/en/Detail/Index?id=4047113657445692814&appLang=en&os=Win64

These are well equipped but don't include the swagelok compression fittings.

I had to build a custom catalog for the swagelok compression fittings, but this wasn't too taxing as Swagelok provide a wide range of 3d models on their website.

Cheers,

Rob.

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:43:11 GMT

Hi Pat,

Yes, the tubing content pack is a good place to start. There are however, excellent 3D neutral files available on the Swagelok website. You can download what you need and use the PLANTPARTCONVERT command to create your own Swagelok fitting template for use in Plant 3D Spec Editor to create a Swagelok catalog with fantastic results.

Best regards,

Zeke

Re: Tubing Specs

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:51:03 GMT

Thanks for the message, Zeke... Sorry that I have taken so long to respond. I have been side tracked with other work, than AutoCAD Plant 3D... I will look into this more when our workload permits...

Pat

Re: Tubing Specs

KSchieck — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 18:46:15 GMT

Can you share your files?

Kevin

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 19:50:02 GMT

Hi Kevin,

Sorry, unfortunately for legal reasons I'm unable share company content with any outside entity or non-partner.

However, I could point you in the right direction and answer any questions you may have.

Best regards,

Zeke

Re: Tubing Specs

tstorzuk — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:39:24 GMT

@ZZikic

I'm interested in how you made your Swagelok fittings for Plant 3D.

Do you have a step-by-step procedure that you used (that you can share)?

What type of ends did you use for the press-on (Swagelok Tube Fitting) type ends?

What did you use for bends? Custom diameters or standard ones?

Re: Tubing Specs

KSchieck — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:08:41 GMT

I'm interested too, it's a time consuming procedure to download all the swagelok models!

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:52:27 GMT

I didn't find it terribly time consuming. Swagelok is quick at sending your requested models from their 3D CAD site.

I typically use STEP file format and import all the sizes I need. I tend to stay to the more commonly available sizes.

For compression tube fitting ends I treat them as SW ends

1/8 (usually I omit this size)
1/4
3/8
1/2
5/8 (usually I omit this size)
3/4
1
1 1/4 (usually I omit this size)
1 1/2
2

Import the STEP models into a drawing session. Explode them and recreate blocks for each size. I recommend to use the part number. (For example SS-810-9 for 1/2" union elbow)
Change to wireframe (it is easier to see and select the ports)
Run PLANTPARTCONVERT. Select the block. Follow the prompts to select each port and it's direction. Clicking Accept each time. When all ports are selected click Exit.
Save the drawing session as for example SwagelokCatalog.dwg
Start Spec Editor. In your Swagelok catalog Create New Component using Custom - AutoCAD DWG Block based graphics. For each new size created Select Model... and browse to the SwagelokCatalog.dwg and select the appropriate block. Click OK. Fill in all other required field as you normally would.

Best of luck!

Zeke

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Tue, 13 Jun 2023 17:01:20 GMT

Alternately,

I prefer for performance reasons to use Python scripted components whenever possible rather than converted blocks. With a bit of Python knowledge one could implement custom Swagelok fittings like this.

Re: Tubing Specs

julie_havard — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:31:37 GMT

Did you do it for all?

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:09:59 GMT

Only for the commonly used components in our company's SS tubing spec. Couplings, elbows, tees, and a couple valves.

Re: Tubing Specs

julie_havard — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:41:05 GMT

Can you send me what you did??

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:59:51 GMT

Hi Julie,

Sorry, unfortunately for legal reasons I'm unable share company content with any outside entity or non-partner.

However, I could point you in the right direction and answer any questions you may have.

I outline in the above chat how these fittings can be added using the PLANTPARTCONVERT method. For Python it is just using rectangles and cylinders to build each fitting.

Best regards,

Zeke

Re: Tubing Specs

tstorzuk — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:47:11 GMT

@ZZikic wrote:
Swagelok is quick at sending your requested models from their 3D CAD site.

I find that the downloads from the Swagelok site are stupid slow.

I requested a batch of 308 files this morning at 7:22am. It's now 10:43am and they still haven't shown up in my email. You must be lucky in your downloading times from Swagelok.

Re: Tubing Specs

ZZikic — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:57:16 GMT

308!!!??? Perhaps try requesting smaller batches at a time? There may be a size constraint. I've always requested maximum 1 or 2 dozen at a time.

Re: Tubing Specs

tstorzuk — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 18:16:54 GMT

Yes, 308. All of one category of items;

That's not a lot of items, compared to some of the categories. For example, the one below has 1316 items within this single category;

And that's still not the maximum number per category. You can download a maximum of 500 CAD files in one request. So 500 is the size constraint.

If I make smaller requests, it would take forever to download their entire CAD catalogue.