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Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:10:44 GMT

When I was setting up the BOM for my spool drawings I was looking for a way of producing a total spool wieght field. Does anyone now if the isometic component weights can be accumulated on the isometick drawing?

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:01:07 GMT

@Anonymous,

Have you tried editing the title block by going into the iso settings in project setup, then once in the title block editor, adding a custom calculated field for the BOM to calculate spool weight? If you haven't already seen our white paper on isometrics I would recommend it.

De-Mystifying AutoCAD Plant 3D Isometrics:

http://docs.autodesk.com/PLNT3D/2014/ENU//De-mystifying%20AutoCAD%20Plant%203D%20Isometrics.pdf

-Scott

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:20:35 GMT

@Anonymous,

I haven't heard back from you, did you still need help? If the information I sent in my last reply helped you to resolve the issue please mark "accept as solution". Otherwise, please let me know if you need further assistance.

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Mon, 02 Nov 2015 18:30:20 GMT

@Anonymous,

I got your message about adding a field and doing a sum of the quantity fields but that you couldn't get it to run after you modified it. Could you elaborate? Perhaps post a screenshot or video of the steps you are doing?

Re: Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Nov 2015 12:09:28 GMT

What I am trying to do is get a total weight for the spool. So I added the cell for the sum below. When I run it I get the error and it does not run the spool drawing. [cid:image002.png@01D115FD.2B4BC470] [cid:image009.png@01D115FC.C9613D30] Patrick Stephany Senior Designer-Piping [revised_logo_email.jpg] J. F. Ahern Co. 855 Morris Street, Fond du Lac, WI 54935 T: 920.907.5122 | F: 920.921.4614 | C: 920.375.6065 pstephany@jfahern.com | www.jfahern.com[Description: Description: Description: FacebookIcon][Description: Description: Description: LinkedinIcon][Description: Description: Description: YoutubeIcon]

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Tue, 03 Nov 2015 21:41:29 GMT

@Anonymous,

Could you repaste that screenshot, it didn't come in, or maybe write down the error message.

Re: Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:05:34 GMT

[cid:image009.png@01D116C6.84CDCAB0] Patrick Stephany Senior Designer-Piping [revised_logo_email.jpg] J. F. Ahern Co. 855 Morris Street, Fond du Lac, WI 54935 T: 920.907.5122 | F: 920.921.4614 | C: 920.375.6065 pstephany@jfahern.com | www.jfahern.com[Description: Description: Description: FacebookIcon][Description: Description: Description: LinkedinIcon][Description: Description: Description: YoutubeIcon]

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 00:01:43 GMT

@Anonymous,

So here is what you should do:

1. Go into Project Manager > Title Block Setup.

2. Select "Setup Title Block".

3. Select "Table Setup" from the Ribbon.

4. In the Table Setup, select "Add Column".

5. Select P3d Line Group.

6. Under "Properties" select "Weight" and hit "OK".

7. Then make sure that weight is checked for your pipes, fittings, olets etc. Some things do not have a weight assigned so you have to edit that manually in your catalog.

Let me know if that helps.

Re: Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Nov 2015 12:22:29 GMT

I have the weight populating the drawing but also want to add a formula that would combine the weight into a total weight for the spool. When I do that I get the error message. Patrick Stephany Senior Designer-Piping [revised_logo_email.jpg] J. F. Ahern Co. 855 Morris Street, Fond du Lac, WI 54935 T: 920.907.5122 | F: 920.921.4614 | C: 920.375.6065 pstephany@jfahern.com | www.jfahern.com[Description: Description: Description: FacebookIcon][Description: Description: Description: LinkedinIcon][Description: Description: Description: YoutubeIcon]

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Tue, 17 Nov 2015 00:51:26 GMT

@Anonymous,

I am not seeing any of the screenshots you are trying to link into the post, could you transcribe the error for me?

Re: Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:31:36 GMT

What I am doing is setting up the BOM on the iso.dwt drawing. At the bottom under the weight column I add a cell and add sum formula trying to calculate the total weight of the spool components. When I do that I get the following error: Iso Creation start time : 11/17/2015 7:29:27 AM Iso Creation finish time: 11/17/2015 7:29:39 AM Duration : 00:00:12 Output folder : Z:\Mechanical Contracting\211DATA\211996 Green Bay WWTP R2E2\design\PIPING\gbwwtp\Isometric\JFA INTERFAB\ProdIsos\Drawings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Isometric(s) were not able to be created: Z:\Mechanical Contracting\211DATA\211996 Green Bay WWTP R2E2\design\PIPING\gbwwtp\Isometric\JFA INTERFAB\PCFs\afrt.pcf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INFO - Loading input: 'Z:\Mechanical Contracting\211DATA\211996 Green Bay WWTP R2E2\design\PIPING\gbwwtp\Isometric\JFA INTERFAB\PCFs\afrt.pcf' INFO - Loaded '1' model(s). INFO - Processing: 'afrt'. FAILURE - Object reference not set to an instance of an object. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Stephany Senior Designer-Piping [revised_logo_email.jpg] J. F. Ahern Co. 855 Morris Street, Fond du Lac, WI 54935 T: 920.907.5122 | F: 920.921.4614 | C: 920.375.6065 pstephany@jfahern.com | www.jfahern.com[Description: Description: Description: FacebookIcon][Description: Description: Description: LinkedinIcon][Description: Description: Description: YoutubeIcon]

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:44:24 GMT

@Anonymous,

Ah yes, that particular error, "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" means that at least one object that was on the line selected to be included in the iso is corrupted. You can narrow down by performing a quick iso (because quick isos allows you to select individual objects), first you select the entire line that generated the issue, generate the quick iso - you will get the error, go back and select one half of the line and run the quick iso again, if the error doesn't appear, select the other half. Once you get the error again, select the half of the remaining again and run the quick iso - repeat as neccessary until you isolate the exact object that has become corrupted, delete and replace the component. Many times PLANTAUDIT, PROJECTAUDIT, and PURGE won't catch these so you need to isolate, delete, and recreate.

Let me know if you are able to isolate the object, if you would need some help with this you I'd be happy to be of any assistance.

Re: Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Nov 2015 20:09:13 GMT

If I remove the formula I have no problem running the spool. So I don't know how to insert the formula to sum up the total weight of the spool and get the iso to run. Patrick Stephany Senior Designer-Piping [revised_logo_email.jpg] J. F. Ahern Co. 855 Morris Street, Fond du Lac, WI 54935 T: 920.907.5122 | F: 920.921.4614 | C: 920.375.6065 pstephany@jfahern.com | www.jfahern.com[Description: Description: Description: FacebookIcon][Description: Description: Description: LinkedinIcon][Description: Description: Description: YoutubeIcon]

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:36:27 GMT

@Anonymous,

So the error "object reference not set to an instance of an object" is only appearing when you add a formula to calculate the total weight of the spool? That error usually points to component corruption in the model that is affecting the isogen. What is the exact formula you are using, and where are you adding it exactly? Could you post a video of the steps you are taking to produce this behavior please? You can use our free Screencast service.

Autodesk Screencast:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast

Re: Spool Isometrics

OptimusCAD — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 10:36:14 GMT

I had a similar error when trying to convert the value of the <WEIGHT> tag to KG. I think the isogen is looking for that tag on its own, and if it sees something =<WEIGHT>* .blah blah, it breaks. I had to create a custom property to get the desired result.

Re: Spool Isometrics

scott.a.green — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:00:47 GMT

@Anonymous,

I haven't heard back from you, were you going to post that screencast video of the steps you were taking? A screenshot of the formula you were using?

Check out this Screencast: Spool Drawing Weight

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:45:34 GMT

Hi,

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Re: Spool Isometrics

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:01:04 GMT

Where in the White Paper is this??

We want to find the center of gravity for a mter skid.

Is there a way to do this?

Re: Spool Isometrics

PeterQuinn — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:58:09 GMT

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-plant-3d/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Plant3D-UserGuide/files/GUID-70226A0A-B073-4115-90BC-8549B61E2C9E-htm.html

google for Plant 3D Center of Gravity

Re: Check out this Screencast: Spool Drawing Weight

rumarji — Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:10:10 GMT

Hello,

Was this resolved? I am looking for something similar - Weight for the complete spool.