topic Re: Design History and others in Fusion Support Forum

Design History and others

ctraywick — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 21:39:36 GMT

For the love of all that is holy, can we PLEASE get Capture Design History on by default. Its a stupid discussion to have. If you need the history, it's there, if you don't.... well it hurts nothing by having it on.

Same with, why can we not get a right click menu on the timeline sketch icons to so/hidden sketch visibility. Why do we need to keep going over to the browser to turn visibility on or off. 101 of GUI programing, fewer clicks and less movement equates to higher productivity. And no, find in browser is not a solution.

I keep asking for these features, hundreds of people concur. I don't get why simple Menu/GUI changes have to be constantly overlooked, especially since we just keep paying more, and more for the software.

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g-andresen — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:26:55 GMT

Hi,

@ctraywick schrieb:

For the love of all that is holy, can we PLEASE get Capture Design History on by default.

Can be activated in the preferences.

Günther

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ctraywick — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:48:13 GMT

Not for imported parts

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g-andresen — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 12:50:53 GMT

Hi,

@ctraywick schrieb:

Not for imported parts

Correct, when importing “external formats”, DM mode (direct modeling > no history) is automatically selected.

günther

Re: Design History and others

HughesTooling — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:44:01 GMT

@ctraywick wrote:

For the love of all that is holy, can we PLEASE get Capture Design History on by default. Its a stupid discussion to have. If you need the history, it's there, if you don't.... well it hurts nothing by having it on.

The reason it's off for imports is history pretty much doubles the file size. If all you're doing is importing one model them using it for manufacturing that probably doesn't matter but if you are building a large assembly you would run into performance problems a lot faster.

As for the sketch icon in the timeline, I agree with you. Really it should be the same menu in the browser and the timeline. Then not only can you change visibility but also visibility for dimensions export as a DXF etc. Also should have the padlock that indicates fully constrained. Having all the same menu items and the lock indicator would make working in assemblies with subcomponents\subassemblies a lot easier. I've asked about this a couple of times in the past but I guess the developers don't work enough with assemblies to see the advantage!🙄

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ctraywick — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:49:13 GMT

Which is why I wasn't asking how to do it, I know it won't. But myself
along with hundreds of people would like it to capture design history by
default. Actually there's not one single reason anyone can give for it not
to, by default. It won't even with importing inventor files.

Re: Design History and others

ctraywick — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:35:23 GMT

Yeah, I wish the timeline icons had the same options as the browser. I get the larger size of the file, but I work in very large assemblies all day. That leads to the issue, if there needs to be something that needs to be changed or updated I have to remember to turn on capture design history for that one file out of the couple hundred's i'm working with. I don't really see where the file size change would come from to have it active. It could be as simple as its activated automatically when you start to make the change, (Start capturing upon edit). Best of both worlds, Start a sketch/or feature and it starts capturing. Don't start a feature and it doesn't start. Its not like its a long change in the background.

Re: Design History and others

TrippyLighting — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:32:33 GMT

I would support that request only as an additional setting in the preferences.

Re: Design History and others

ctraywick — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:07:05 GMT

Absolutely! An option to enable or not would be fine.

Re: Design History and others

HughesTooling — Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:23:42 GMT

@ctraywick I work with imported parts designing injection mould tools and the first thing I do is defeature and orientate the part without history then enable history if I need other mods so I wouldn't want anything automatic. An option to enable it in preferences would be OK but people could then run into performance problems.

I did a test yesterday on a fairly simple design and it does pretty much double the file size so working with hundreds of parts would cause problems pretty quickly. Would you really want to turn off history all the time where it's not needed? I guess a warning when you make the first modification to an imported part might be the least bad option?

Re: Design History and others

ctraywick — Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:28:13 GMT

Hey, I'm down for any option that's not what we currently have. A
notifications, a setting that we can choose to have on or off, or one that
auto enabled when an edit is started. It just needs to happen.

Re: Design History and others

HughesTooling — Fri, 15 Nov 2024 11:06:53 GMT

Don't know how quickly something like this might happen but the request for an option to enable history for imports has been asked a lot of times going back 10 years or so, so might happen somewhen.

It might be worth contacting the person that made the add ins here.

He has an addin that prompts if you start designing without a component active and another that prompts to name features so he might be able to come up with something that prompts you if history's not enabled.

Re: Design History and others

ctraywick — Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:40:59 GMT

Good to know, I'll contact them and ask. Its crazy that so many basic functions are just ignored for years while concentrating on making extra features we need to pay extra for. The 10 years with inventor was never this bad. Don't know if its just limitation's on the basic framework they started with or what, but the basics need to be addressed