topic Re: trick to save design without advancing version number? in Fusion Support Forum

trick to save design without advancing version number?

teknoel — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 03:55:11 GMT

Just wondering if there is a trick to doing this? I'm on mac if there are key combos involved 😉

- Noel

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

masa.minohara — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:57:27 GMT

Thank you for posting! There is not a way to do that at the moment. Instead, you can export files to your local drive without creating a new version of a design.

Hopefully the information helps!

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

TrippyLighting — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:26:00 GMT

But in the process of doing do you'll loose the entire version history of the design.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Scoox — Wed, 08 Nov 2017 19:27:07 GMT

Fusion 360 badly needs a proper save command. I've just lost my work because it hadn't created an automatic backup, and it's infuriating that this feature was almost certainly omitted deliberately. It's ridiculous.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

davebYYPCU — Wed, 08 Nov 2017 20:55:47 GMT

Fusion does create Automatic backups, at the intervals specified in your Preferences.

To trigger the Automatic Backups, Save the design when initiated, with the desired project, and file name.

If you had a local outage, check in the recovered documents list in the file menu.

To work for a period, not knowing your file name, is an unusual workflow.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Scoox — Sun, 12 Nov 2017 09:39:16 GMT

Working with an unknown file name for a period of time is uncommon when using CAD software, except in cases where you are just trying to be creative instead of designing something specific, and you don't know what it should be called until it starts looking like "something".

Anyway, I got a workable solution to this problem on another thread. Rather than waiting for autosave to do the saving at regular intervals, users can prematurely do a manual recovery save by hitting Shift+Ctrl+S. This is what I wanted. My only complaint is that I would prefer Ctrl+S to do manual recovery save, and Shift+Ctrl+s to up-version.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

HughesTooling — Sun, 12 Nov 2017 11:05:48 GMT

Autosaves of untitled designs must only be a problem for some because I get unnamed recovery files I don't want quite often. One tip dealing with recovery files is after restarting Fusion and opening the recovery file save straightaway, a few times I've carried on designing and the same operation will make Fusion crash again and there's no recovery file. I guess when Fusion opens the recovery file it deletes it so for 5 minutes after a restart you don't have a backup.

Mark

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Scoox — Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:43:18 GMT

I think most Fusion users hate the way the software forces us to save a new version even if all we are doing is save are one or two minor changes that are definitely not worthy of a whole version.

Anyone who's used Git knows how version control is supposed to work. Meanwhile, Fusion floods your version history with mostly pointless versions that look practically identical. Nobody is going to bother to type in a version description every single time when all that was done was correct a typo. That version description box is really a flow killer—I just wanna hit Ctrl+S every now and then and continue working, knowing that my work is safe.

In theory that's what autosave does, but all I can say is that I've lost count of how many times autosave has failed to save my work. IT DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY. Somehow it seems to work always except when you actually need it. Furthermore, autosave saves at regular intervals, whereas I can save after making changes right now without having to wait for autosave to hopefully do it's job 3 minutes later during which time the program may have already crashed.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

wmhazzard — Mon, 17 Feb 2020 18:47:39 GMT

For a while there you used to be able to press shift control S to save without creating a new version but that seems to have gone away.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

jeff_strater — Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:26:04 GMT

as far as I am aware, Shift./Ctrl(CMD)/S still works for saving a "crash recovery save". Also, if you have converted to a Team Hub, check out "Milestones". This is a way by which you can say "this version is more important than others", and references to a design will only show out of date when a new milestone is saved. Here are a couple of links:

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

wmhazzard — Tue, 18 Feb 2020 03:15:32 GMT

I used to see the word "saving" pop up at the top of the screen when shift ctrl S was used so I knew it was saving, I don't see that now so I assumed that it does not work anymore.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Phil.E — Wed, 19 Feb 2020 16:16:33 GMT

When the new UI was created, there was no room for little messages at the top. The save message wasn't the only one that was done away with.

The hotkey to force a recovery save still works.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

wmhazzard — Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:42:50 GMT

Glad to hear that it still works. The word saving could go at the bottom right where the "opening document" pops up.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 21:58:43 GMT

I understand the frustration being presented here. I'll take it one step beyond a simple change gets a new Version. Why must I save a new version when all I've done is opened a file to get a dimension in a Sketch? Didn't change a thing. But, still saved as a new version.

Why? Where is the benefit?

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

TrippyLighting — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 23:13:33 GMT

You cannot save a design without advancing the version number.

However, you CAN close a file without saving it - and thus avoid advancing the version number.

This is controlled by a preference setting.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Phil.E — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 18:21:27 GMT

Thanks @TrippyLighting , it's not often I recommend not saving, but you beat me to it. And note, that preference is "off" by default.

Just to close the loop. If you don't want to save a version, ensure the Automatic Version on Close is "off" (not ticked) and when you close a design, pick "don't save" from the dialog that pops up.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

ddt_thompson — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 03:58:30 GMT

This is DEFINITLY one of the silliest things ever to create so many versions and interrupt work flow. PLEASE FIX

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Scoox — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 10:37:56 GMT

F360 needs a "working" version that is stored locally when the user hits Ctrl+S. When the user feels the project has undergone any changes worthy of up-versioning, the user can commit their work using a separate Commit command (e.g. Shift+Ctrl+S) which also updates the local version.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

Scoox — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 11:07:34 GMT

Just posted this on Reddit with a poll to see how users feel about this.

Re: trick to save design without advancing version number?

TrippyLighting — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 11:23:14 GMT

@Scoox wrote:

Just posted this on Reddit with a poll to see how users feel about this.

Are you looking for nuanced feedback from educated and experienced users ?

To be fair, for years I also did not think this was useful , however I have completely changed my mind on this.

I applaud the Fusion 360 team for their foresight!

I have worked and still do work with other CAD systems that don't do this and find the ability yo go back to an earlier version incredibly useful!

If you need a "real" version then use Milestones! That feature is already at least 2(?) years old.