topic Re: New Surface Book 2 in Fusion Support Forum

New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:30:56 GMT

Hi
Anybody know if the new surface book 2 will handle fusion 360?
The 13" can be ordered with Nvidia gtx 1050
The 15" comes with Nvidia gtx 1060
I know it's pretty new but hoping someone can chime in before I pull the trigger.
Thanks

Re: New Surface Book 2

James.Youmatz — Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:15:50 GMT

Hi @wbtuttle,

Both of those options should perform well above our minimum requirements. I'll let the community chime in on their thoughts on the machine specs, but here is our minimum requirements if you wanted to take a peek.

Thanks,

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:00:31 GMT

Thank you!

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Sat, 02 Dec 2017 15:04:14 GMT

Anyone else have an opinion on this machine for fusion? Thanks

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:14:49 GMT

I just bought a Surface Book 2 (15 inch with i7, 16GB Ram) and it is not running Fusion well. It's very choppy. Just creating simple sketches is a very slow process because it's having to stop and think after many action such as setting constraints. I even tried changing the settings on the NVIDIA control panel to high performance with Fusion 360 but that did not work. I'm still hoping it's some sort of driver or software tweek that needs to be done because I feel the hardware should be able to run Fusion smooth. If not I'll be returning the Surface Book 2 for something else. Let me know how your experience is if you ended up buying it.

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:18:54 GMT

I thought I read something about fusion not playing well with 4k displays. Maybe look into that?

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:20:25 GMT

Maybe this?
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/fusion-360-amp-4k-monitors-if-you-use-a-4k-monitor-please/td-p/5969046

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:25:57 GMT

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Performance-Tips-for-running-Fusion-360-on-high-resolution-monitor.html

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:24:16 GMT

Thanks. I selected "the overide high dpi scaling" option and it did make it a little better but there is still a noticeable lag in the software. I wish I knew about whole 4k resolution issue before I made the purchase. Based on the comments on the other forum this does not seem to be a problem with Mac's high res displays. If so I may switch the Surface for a Macbook. I wish the store would let you install Fusion and go for a test ride before buying.

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:40:14 GMT

Hopefully somebody else will chime in with a better solution. I was actually going to look at the surface books tomorrow 😕
There is no reason why a gtx 1060 and 8th gen Intel shouldn't run this

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:42:12 GMT

Another thing, try getting the video driver from Nvidia. I read that ms uses a custom driver

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:52:41 GMT

I did and even changed the settings to use the high performance option when running Fusion.

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:57:36 GMT

Yes, hoping to hear from Autodesk. I agree, no reason the hardware should have any difficulty with this. That's why I'm hopeful that it's just some software tweak I need to do or install some patch or something.

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:51:10 GMT

Any resolution? I started two other threads on f360 and surface subreddits. It appears you're the only person on earth using the sb2 for fusion. I may go to the Microsoft store today and check them out. Maybe they'll let me install fusion?

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 15:20:57 GMT

I've been using it for the last few days and it's actually gotten a bit better. Although not quite as smooth as my Lenovo Laptop with a 1080p screen. There is still this annoying little delay when I right click to get the shortcut menu. I'm using a bluetooth microsoft mouse and found that when I plug a usb mouse the delay is gone. Also, I don't have this delay when I use the bluetooth microsoft mouse with my Lenovo Laptop.

Here are the specs between the two Laptops. The Lenovo has a manufacturing date of 15/02/12 but I bought it refurbished. I'm throwing this out there in case anyone else can see any other reasons why my Lenovo runs Fusion better then the new Surfacebook 2.

Lenovo:

Intel Core i7-4710HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz

RAM - 16 GB

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860

Display - 1920 x 1080 (Full HD)

SurfaceBook 2

Intel Core i7-8650 @ 1.9GHz 2.11GHz

RAM 16 GB

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060

Display - 3,240x2,160 touch display

Re: New Surface Book 2

wbtuttle — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 03:06:19 GMT

Does the trackpad right click have a delay?

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 03:24:06 GMT

I don't really use the trackpad when modeling but yes there is a small delay between right clicking on the trackpad and getting the menu.

Re: New Surface Book 2

TrippyLighting — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:18:57 GMT

@DESKTOPMAKES.COM your sketch problems are not at all related to the use of a particular piece of hardware, the surface box 2 in this case.

I had a surface book that performed well with a 400 component assembly.

What I did not like was the touchpad (the new Mac touchpad are absolutely phenomenal).

The touchscreen was more or less useless when working with Fusion 360. The 1st incarnation of the pen I found cumbersome to use and the buttons were hard to press.

The killer app would have been using this tablet mode. However, you need to have access to a keyboard as Fusion is really not useful without modifier keys and that did not work either.

However, I did not encounter any more sketch performance problems that on my mid 2010 iMac or my 2017 15" Macbook pro.

Re: New Surface Book 2

DESKTOPMAKES.COM — Sat, 16 Dec 2017 13:16:28 GMT

Hi Peter,

What was the screen resolution on your surface book? I hear that many are having trouble getting Fusion to run smooth on 4k monitors. Any tips on optimizing settings to get Fusion to run smoother?

Re: New Surface Book 2

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Feb 2019 15:58:54 GMT

Its really old thread but... for people who are looking for it right now. Open the task manager and o performance bar check which GPU you Surface Book is using. There is a big chance that it's not using your secondary GPU. I'm using less powered 13inch model but everything runs without a problem.