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Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 13:13:36 GMT

Are there any sources online for real world lathe tools?

Things like .25 trigon bore bar.

.375 trigon bore bar

.5 trigon bore bar

3/4 trigon bore bar

Also maybe a Sandvik or Kennametal

style groove tool

Both O.D. and I.D.

You know, the tools most shops use every day.

ASME Standards would be very helpful.

Please post links or contacts for such tools

Thank you for any input

This would be for new tool library

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 17:03:49 GMT

Here is one from NYCC, if you search web sites of major tool distributors you may find more but best way to accommodate your own assortment is to build your own library from scratch.

Tool does not need to be exact replica of numerous types of cutting edges, just outline tip radius, geometry and holder type and shape as round or square shank.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:38:31 GMT

So sad that Fusion lathe CAM is so neglected. Word is on the street is that Fusion lathe CAM

is not worth the effort. I know of more than one machine shop that will not switch to Fusion

because of Fusion lathe CAM. At this point in time, I fully agree.

It might be time for Team Fusion to shake up Lathe CAM department.

This is not fun or funny anymore!

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:52:35 GMT

I have been using Fusion for over 3 years now, got my own account so I can be independent of shop's account.

For the money, it's still a killer deal if you consider modeling and CAM features in one package, but.......... being that it is beta version sold as fully functional software, it's not completely honest and fair deal from Autodesk.

It is highly unstable, has numerous bugs that are being worked on, monthly updates do more harm then good to anyone running a business and I attribute that to constant change in bugs fixing that seems to fix one and introduce another.

For what it's worth, all CAM systems that I have used in the past, lathe work is always last to receive any attention,....... because "lathe work is easy" stigma.

I use Fusion to do all my milling on mill-turns and lathe section of it comes handy to visualize complete work in simulation.

Often times I use Mastercam for turning because it is far ahead of Fusion in terms of accuracy and dependability.

One thing I like about Fusion is ability to peck in long hand code for roughing or turn at alternate angle that benefits using stock as structural strength that benefits process.

Fusion is many things to many people so each part of it receives trivial approval depending on its effectiveness among users.

In recent survey request asking if I would recommend Fusion to a friend I gave it score of 7 on list from 1 -10, main reason being instability and lock of refinement.

"We are working on it" is not quite the right answer here, manufacturing is dependent on stable and predictable variables, one of which is software used to program daily activities.

So, I am dedicated user of Fusion but I also have other options at my disposal that compensate for lock of it's refinement.

I am near retirement and shop I work for has a lot of loose ends so I pick my own route to the finish line in most cases but I see some encouraging progress in functionality of Fusion since my first introduction to it, I wouldn't dismiss it on bases of lathe imperfections alone.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:28:25 GMT

Hey Vic, Thanks for talking me down from my High Horse. You make a lot of good points about total

usability of Fusion. I guess the reason I feel so strongly about lathe cam is that's it's by far the weakest

link in the Fusion chain. If this were fixed into a robust turning solution, Fusion would be unbeatable

in most price ranges. I just trying to light a fire under the lathe cam team to get them moving again.

If anyone at Fusion is reading this, The first fix should be to split 2 axis lathe from the multi-axis lathe.

Make into two parts. You know, like in the mill cam. If anyone cares, I'd be happy to help in anyway

I can.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 23:02:15 GMT

For short periods of times when I ran exclusively 2 axis lathes, much of the work I programmed manually or used cheep software to make finish contour pass with in computer calculated cutter compensation then used it in canned cycle to rough as well. Software opens a whole new way to run CNC machines of any kind including lathes so yes, we can get by with basics, but we can get ahead with right tool.

Some bugs are very old but you can get around them, I would personal prefer that Autodesk freezes all but critical updates like bug fixes for 6 months periods and works on addressing all complaints before introducing new features.

It would give users some sense of stability and Autodesk would have chance to test and collaborate with selected number of individuals that can provide valuable and indispensable feedback, avoiding scenario of "launching new boat only to learn that it is taking on water at alarming rate".

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

daniel.pacific — Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:58:26 GMT

I realize I'm late to the game on this one (I go through the forums every few weeks), but what "Word is on the street is that Fusion lathe CAM is not worth the effort", what in particular feels neglected in Lathe that makes it so undesirable?

as aside, We did shake up our Lathe CAM department over the last 2 years, obviously the impacts are not felt immediately but there is significant effort to make Turning consistent with Milling. I realize the "we're working on it" answer doesn't help in this context but trust that we do have experts in this field addressing all aspects of our inefficiencies.

Tools - Spun Profile Generation - Toolpaths (control over retracts, ability to machine undercuts, control over quadrants, grooving strategies overall, supporting form tools) - Material Control Processes. Many other projects as well, we plan on posting a public facing roadmap specifically for Turning to have more visibility into the "we're working on it" so you can follow along with what we are prioritizing getting done.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Aug 2021 01:21:48 GMT

Hi Dan,

The post I made about the lathe cam was because it took so much effort to get even a simple

program made. I watched people like Curt Chan make some cutter paths. It was clear to me the

Some of those programs, while they might not crash, would not make a part to print.

After spending a lot of time trying to make code, It was just way faster to make code long hand.

(This was for 2 axis lathes) I ran the old Okuma osp 5000 controls with the igf function, and loved it.

I also realize that todays multi-axis machine demand powerful software for cam.

That's why I thought breaking the lathe cam into 2 axis and multi-axis forum would allow quick and easy

2 axis programing, plus a multi-axis function for complex programing. Like the mill cam does.

Hope this helps,

P.S. I was locked out of my account. Something Fusion 360 said it would never do when I sighed up.

Now's it's like ransom ware. Feel afraid to use Fusion now because My data will never really be mine.

Hope this helps,

Dave Sturgis 1-406-471-5913

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

ChrisDPCnc — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 09:45:59 GMT

Seeing the RoadMap would be good for users to see the efforts the Fusion team are making for us

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Roman.Hanmamedov — Tue, 31 Aug 2021 07:52:46 GMT

Hi, big problem that i can't load lathe tool from stp or dfx files.

I need to do profile lathe turning, i have profile tool like this and i cant load it to my tool library.

Also i can't make it in tool library either. There is not enough options to do it.

If someone know how to make tool from model or from dxf to .tools format, write here.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

seth.madore — Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:26:00 GMT

Custom profile tools (for turning) are not yet supported. However, for the tool you linked, it seems that you should be able to define a round insert and correct angles of your holder, no?

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

Roman.Hanmamedov — Wed, 01 Sep 2021 05:12:27 GMT

Hi, can't do same profile, not enough options to do it right.

@seth.madore wrote:
Custom profile tools (for turning) are not yet supported.

Will we have the opportunity to see this in the future?

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

columbuss — Fri, 01 Oct 2021 17:00:37 GMT

So I have downloaded the tool starter pack. What next? It's riddle after riddle on this forum.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

seth.madore — Fri, 01 Oct 2021 17:30:33 GMT

Extract the tool library from the .zip format.

Open up the tool library in Fusion

Right Click on "Local" or "Cloud" on the left hand side

Click on "Import Libraries"

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

haveoneforme — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:09:44 GMT

Fusion 360's turning tool library seems really poor. Are there any improvements coming ? We can't simulate toolpath properly because holder definition is so limited.

There is a video were Lar Christensen is asked to show how to define a back boring bar (not an uncommon tool) and he completely fails ! Three year later and it still doesn't appear to be able to be done in Fusion 360.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-z2-HD12eE

Are there any plans to improve turning to libraries in Fusion 360 ? With tool support from proper suppliers like Sandvik and Iscar ?

We want to use Fusion 360 for our turning, but can't even get started with this poor tool library and tool definition situation.

If I've got this wrong that's great, just point me in the right direction 🙂

Thanks

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

seth.madore — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:17:27 GMT

We're well aware that turning tools are at a significant weak spot in comparison to milling. We are working on improving this, but it's quite a large project to support the holders and geometry that is needed. All I can say is "we're working on it, but it's going to take a while"

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

haveoneforme — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:36:20 GMT

I was hoping you'd just tell me I'd just missed something and here's how to define tool libraries quickly that we can simulate.

It's a shame because we want to use Fusion more to complete the work we do with milling in Fusion. Now we have to keep going back to our old CAM software to do the turning.

"It's going to take a while" does not seem to offer much hope in the near future, but again thanks for getting back to me , at least I can tell the my boss something.

Thanks

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

seth.madore — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 13:36:12 GMT

I should have provided more information, sorry. Most standard turning tools are quite easy and quick to setup. It's when you get into custom ground tools (Micro100 for example) and back-borers where it becomes more tricky. In those cases, one typically just ends up with an insert shape and no holder. I recognize that this elevates the risk of collision...

(for context, I own a Doosan Lynx twin spindle, so I've done more than a bit of turning)

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

haveoneforme — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 11:58:29 GMT

This thread was started about the less-than-ideal state of Fusion 360 lathe tool libraries. Tool libraries from proper tool holder suppliers would be a massive help in my opinion, to help cut down the time-consuming donkey work setup lathe tools in Fusion.

Again thanks for getting back to me so quickly and for the advice about defining a tool insert without a holder, I'd never considered that.

Re: Tool library lathe tools downloads

jhye_withers — Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:58:50 GMT

any update?