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Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

Eric_Evans_a_GiroDisc_com — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:46:44 GMT

I've noticed this on a few different toolpaths, but this is the worst offender yet and prompted my investigation.

Why do toolpaths finish a cut and then return to the center before leading out, instead of leading out from the last cut?

It wastes time, and with G96 on it ramps the spindle up unnecessarily.

It also might be causing the warning about crossing the centerline, not sure about that though...

Is there a way to control what point the retract moves are started from?

This path starts cutting from a hole drilled in the center, plunging axially and stepping out radially. When it gets to the outside edge of the part it moves back to center (bold yellow line) before retracting to the safe Z. Is there a way to retract to the safe Z from the outside edge of the part?

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

turbobug64 — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:16:24 GMT

Agreed this needs work. It is even annoying that it comes into the cut from center which always scares me that my tool is gonna crash and then it moves out to the first pass. It should start and end at the first and last pass diameter and not return to zero to move.

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

Eric_Evans_a_GiroDisc_com — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:41:44 GMT

They already have inner and outer radius boundaries, seems like those should drive the lead in/out positions. I can see the need if there was a groove or undercut feature, but that seems like a lead out to center or adjustable lead in/outs as they do in milling would be able to solve that.

I don't do much lathe programming in Fusion because it is so clumsy, I really want templates and automated programming to work but its embarrassing how much more control is available using 2D sketches in MasterCAM...

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

engineguy — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:31:15 GMT

@turbobug64

If you are doing an inner profile as in the images below then if the hole in the middle is 10mm and you want to start at a point that is 1mm inside hole and not in the center of it then set a clearance of 9mm so the back of the tool should be well clear !

Is this what you are saying you don`t have ??

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

Eric_Evans_a_GiroDisc_com — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 18:58:36 GMT

It starts by moving over (in X) to the edge of the predrilled hole (in this case it is 1" from centerline for a 2" hole) and then plunges (in Z), it then steps over (in X) and plunges (in Z) several times until it reaches the outside edge of the part. Everything looks good, the cutting is all finished now, this is where is should move to the Z clearance plane for the next operation to begin...

Instead it does a totally unnecessary move where it links back (in X) to the center of the hole, before moving to the Z clearance.

I could delete the X move in the code, but I have 100's of parts in this family that could use this template, and I may not be the only person using it so I really don't want to rely on manual editing.

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

akash.kamoolkar — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 20:49:03 GMT

@Eric_Evans_a_GiroDisc_com Currently there's no way to control the X coordinate at which the tool approaches and retracts in turning (other than for the parting operation). This feature is on our roadmap though and I will up the priority on it.

Regards,

Akash Kamoolkar

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

Eric_Evans_a_GiroDisc_com — Wed, 28 Jul 2021 13:33:25 GMT

This seems like a very basic feature I'm surprised its lagging behind some of the more advanced programming functionality like sub spindle chucking and adaptive turning.
Really glad to know it's going to be getting some attention in future releases.

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

Anonymous — Fri, 03 Sep 2021 22:05:12 GMT

Any updates on this?

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

CreativeEngineer — Fri, 08 Dec 2023 15:06:22 GMT

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-adjust-turning-toolpath-so-that-the-boring-bar-is-not-on-the-centerline-in-Fusion-360.html

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

Eric_Evans_a_GiroDisc_com — Mon, 11 Dec 2023 18:07:26 GMT

@CreativeEngineer

Clearance is still always at or below the inner radius, when I'm roughing from a 2" starting hole out to 10" diameter it will step its way out 2", 2.2", 2.4", etc... to the 10" diameter, but then return to 2" for the lead out.

The inverse is true for OD roughing; it will work its way from 11" down to 10", but then return to 11" for the lead out.

Adds up to A LOT of wasted X feed moves/time.

Re: Fusion 360 Turning toolpaths always return to center before leadout

akash.kamoolkar — Mon, 11 Dec 2023 18:09:49 GMT

we have a project to allow users to set approach and retract X and it is on our short term roadmap.

Regards,