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Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

ThePieMonster — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:44:57 GMT

Hello,

Is there a area to request components and or upload completed components? For example, I was looking for the following component in the library's and could not find it. So I am trying to create it myself but it is quite challenging as I am unsure of how to use the tool effectively.

Is there a location where components might have already been uploaded or can I request someone to create this or review what I have done so far?

https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/USB-Connectors_Korean-Hroparts-Elec-TYPE-C-31-M-14_C223907.html

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

melisa.kaner — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 23:19:37 GMT

Hey @ThePieMonster !

Thanks for being active on the Forums! Have you tried looking in Ultra Librarian [https://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=ECD-ULTRA-LIBRARIAN] or SnapEDA [https://apps.autodesk.com/FUSION/en/Detail/Index?id=5446990520022318629&appLang=en&os=Win64] ? These are component libraries that can be searched within Fusion and will hopefully have what you're looking for! (I just had a quick look and managed to find this: https://app.ultralibrarian.com/details/7469c2c0-5a58-11ea-8c00-0ad2c9526b44/HRO-Electronics/TYPE-C-31-M-14?uid=99357594)

You've made a really interesting point though, I'll certainly take your feedback to the rest of the team.

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

ThePieMonster — Fri, 27 Jan 2023 06:40:15 GMT

Thank you for the info! I have not heard of Ultra Librarian but I'm glad you mentioned it!

In terms of finding components on there or another site, when you only have a SCH and BRD file (EAGLE files) for example. I have been able to import those into Fusion 360 and have Fusion 360 automatically create a project file with the linked files. In the case of the below, there was no 3D file, so generating one works in terms of getting just the PCB dimensions but everything else is flat. Not to worried about that.

Files: https://osoyoo.com/2018/06/25/osoyoo-pro-micro-board/

Now in my own project, I want to import this part. So I selected Import Schematic since I could not find it in the Place Component view. (I am guessing this is wrong).

Schematic looks fine but the PCB is messed up. Clearly, importing the part in sections is not keeping the part together. Since this part already exists, it should not be editable in anyway like it is shown here.

Any suggestions on how to properly import a existing component / part?

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

TrippyLighting — Fri, 27 Jan 2023 18:30:51 GMT

I am not sure why your board file looks completely un-routed. I went through the github site you linked to, downloaded the zip file and uploaded the schematics and board and both look fine:

What experience level do you have with Eagle ?

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

ThePieMonster — Fri, 27 Jan 2023 22:43:55 GMT

I have minor experience in Eagle and Fusion 360.

If you have that board as a project. How would you go about saving it as a library component so it can be imported in a different project?

If I import the files of the board I downloaded into their own project then its fine. Its when I want to use that completed part in another project I have issues. Since the part is a manufactured piece, I just want it as a library file and then I can treat it as a component in future projects.

Does that work flow make sense?

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

TrippyLighting — Sat, 28 Jan 2023 21:17:52 GMT

@ThePieMonster wrote:

I have minor experience in Eagle and Fusion 360.

I see! I understand the temptation to "dive right in" and "get things dome" preferably without consulting the documentation or too many tutorials. But I would advise against it!

Read through or at least skim over the available documentation:

Then watch these short tutorials:

Video 1: Electronics Libraries Overview https://youtu.be/xNIEXCimRSg

Video 2: Making Schematic Symbol https://youtu.be/-LWLXkMUcbk

Video 3: Making a footprint https://youtu.be/8-tJZHFzWXo

Video 4: Making 3D Model https://youtu.be/LlhIeRFX-N4

Video 5: Making the Device https://youtu.be/2GVqwGs8qc8

The documentation and these videos will not answer all of your questions but some of them and you'll also have a few new questions. However, you'll be much better equipped to ask new questions.

There are at least two ways to accomplish what you want, but my gut feeling is that both of then are different from how you imagine for it to work 😉

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

ThePieMonster — Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:08:32 GMT

Thanks for the info, I have actually already run through those tutorial videos along with many others.

They all take the point of creating something from scratch based of a datasheet. That is not what we have here. There is a schematic (symbols) and pcb (footprint) file already created. These need to be imported now. How can you import the files without the data changing like I showed in my previous post?

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

TrippyLighting — Sun, 29 Jan 2023 03:12:34 GMT

Upload the schematic file to a teams folder. That will automatically create an electronics design file. If the board file has the same name it will be recognized and also uploaded.

However, the latter did not work for me. In that case, open the electronics design file you can low link the board file to the schematic.

Now what ?

I do not believe that you can just use that uploaded design as a library part as is.

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

TrippyLighting — Sun, 29 Jan 2023 12:49:33 GMT

I've read through the thread again and now have a better understanding of what you want to do and where you're at.

The "traditional way to do what you want is:

The concept is is to create a new device. As devices can only live in libraries, you'll have to first create a new library where that device lives.

Then you need to create a symbol with the pinout of that microcontroller board. The goal here is to define how that board interfaces electrically with other components .

A rectangle with all pins in the two pin headers is all that is needed. You likely don't need the USB connections as that is for programming only.

Then you need to create a footprint. That would be board outline with the pin arrangement of the board. Its a 0.1" grid of PTH pads.

Then create a device, add the symbol to it and connect the pins of the footprint to the pins of the symbol.

If you want a 3D model you can also create a new package and model the PCB. Or use the 3D model from the board you downloaded.

Now you can use that device in other designs.

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

TrippyLighting — Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:10:08 GMT

@ThePieMonster wrote:

Hello,

Is there a area to request components and or upload completed components? For example, I was looking for the following component in the library's and could not find it. So I am trying to create it myself but it is quite challenging as I am unsure of how to use the tool effectively.

Is there a location where components might have already been uploaded or can I request someone to create this or review what I have done so far?

https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/USB-Connectors_Korean-Hroparts-Elec-TYPE-C-31-M-14_C223907.html

To answer your original question, there is no "area" where you can request new components. If a component is not available in any library that ships with Fusion 360 or online at manufacturers web sites, you'll have to create it yourself.

You can then upload it to library.io and either keep it private, or make it public.

Re: Fusion 360 Electronics Component Creation Requests

ThePieMonster — Mon, 30 Jan 2023 03:27:19 GMT

Is there a area to request components and or upload completed components? For example, I was looking for the following component in the library's and could not find it. So I am trying to create it myself but it is quite challenging as I am unsure of how to use the tool effectively.

Is there a location where components might have already been uploaded or can I request someone to create this or review what I have done so far?

https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/USB-Connectors_Korean-Hroparts-Elec-TYPE-C-31-M-14_C223907.html

The concept is is to create a new device. As devices can only live in libraries, you'll have to first create a new library where that device lives.

Then you need to create a symbol with the pinout of that microcontroller board. The goal here is to define how that board interfaces electrically with other components .
A rectangle with all pins in the two pin headers is all that is needed. You likely don't need the USB connections as that is for programming only.
Then y
ou need to create a footprint. That would be board outline with the pin arrangement of the board. Its a 0.1" grid of PTH pads.
Then create a device, add the symbol to it and connect the pins of the footprint to the pins of the symbol.
If you want a 3D model you can also create a new package and model the PCB. Or use the 3D model from the board you downloaded.

Now you can use that device in other designs.

To answer your original question, there is no "area" where you can request new components. If a component is not available in any library that ships with Fusion 360 or online at manufacturers web sites, you'll have to create it yourself.

You can then upload it to library.io and either keep it private, or make it public.

@TrippyLighting Thank you for the answer. This is what I was looking for.

https://www.ultralibrarian.com/

https://library.io/