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3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

sh9WZ6F — Mon, 17 Apr 2023 15:18:48 GMT

Hi,

Just wanted to let you know, that there can be different outcomes with the same Library.

R5, R13 and R14 are all 0402 Resistors. They were from the standard rcl Library and looked like the 0402 Capacitor C8 in the Picture.

I replaced R5 with my own design and outputted it to 3D to check if everything was correct.
After that was confirmed, I replaced R13 and R14 too, but when I rendered again, they were tilted.
How can this be? I am using the same Library for all 3 resistors, but I get different results.

Thanks for reading!

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

jorge_garcia — Mon, 17 Apr 2023 21:08:17 GMT

Hi @sh9WZ6F,

I hope this message finds you well. This is a defect we are chasing down, thank you for letting us know that it continues.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

matt.berggren — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 14:40:12 GMT

Thanks for the post. Can you tell me the rotation angle of each of those parts in PCB (the 2D rotation in the 2D board editor)? ie - is there any chance you can screen show the properties of the parts that display at the right rotation and the others that do not? Thank you.

Regards, matt - Autodesk

Betreff: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

sh9WZ6F — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:05:32 GMT

Hi,

thank you for coming back to me.

I got the Issue resolved, but for You I will go back to that Version and explain.

First the Angles:

Right:

R5 = 180°

(C8 = 270°)

Wrong:

R4 = 90°

R13 = 270°

R14 = 90°

Right:

Wrong:

By the way, I could fix the error on this PCB today.

I exported the PCB from 2D to 3D without all 3D-Packages, saved the Project and closed it.
Then I reopened the Project and did the 3D export again with all 3D-Packeges included.
After that, the Resistors were placed correctly.
But 2 other Components were missing, which were imported from Library.io (for example from Würth PART-NUMBER 156125M173000)
I created copies of those two components in my own Library and replaced them.
Now every Component exports fine from 2D to 3D.

Interestingly enough, Fusion could not find the 3D Packages from Würth when exporting 2D to 3D.

But when I imported the Component from LibraryIO to my own Library, Fusion just downloaded the Package to my own Library.

Best regards,

Sebastian

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

HelenChen-AutodeskQA — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 09:40:18 GMT

Hi @sh9WZ6F ，

So sorry for any trouble!

We have identified the reproducible steps about 3D PCB design mess up issue and the key point is the OS region is French, Dutch, Norway or others which might have format differences.

Before this issue is fixed, the workaround is:

Change the OS region to English instead from French, Dutch
Break link for the problematic 3D PCB
Push to 3D PCB again

Please kindly try the workaround before this issue is fixed.

We will keep you be posted once we have a fix about this issue. So sorry for any inconvenience.

Hope you have a great day!

Best regards,

Helen

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

HelenChen-AutodeskQA — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 02:34:22 GMT

Hi @sh9WZ6F,

Hope all is well.

Good news that today we have an update about Fusion 360 version 2.0.16007 which has a fix about the issue you reported.

Could you please upgrade to latest to have a try? It should work for you now without any extra steps.

Thank you very much for your reporting and so sorry for any inconvenience.

Best regards,

Helen

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

furaTT4KY — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:21:09 GMT

Same issue... Fusion is up to date. All three transistros are from the same library, same types, same values, same rotation, same pcb side. Windows in czech, Fusion in english.

Removing the transistor in the schematic and inserting it again will not help. Change rotation and postion also do not help.

Version:

Fusion 360 2.0.16007 x86_64
Windows 10 Pro 21H2 (19044.2846)

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

HelenChen-AutodeskQA — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:28:12 GMT

Hi @furaTT4KY ，

Sorry to hear about.

Could you please remove the 3D PCB link firstly from 2D PCB and then push to generate a new 3D PCB to have a double check?

Looking forward to your feedback.

Best regards,

Helen

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

HelenChen-AutodeskQA — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:33:09 GMT

If break 3D PCB link still doesn't help, could you please change the OS region to English and have a double check?

Looking forward to your feedback.

Best regards,

Helen

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

furaTT4KY — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:36:42 GMT

No, that's not possible. I have many other assemblies and models linked to the PCB and I don't want to destroy the link.

I made a copy of the PCB (Save as) and then export to 3D and that fixes the 3D model.

How to grant this so that I don't have to break the binding between the models?

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

HelenChen-AutodeskQA — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:41:55 GMT

Hi @furaTT4KY ,

Understood.

Could you please try below steps to have a check?

1. In 2D PCB > Push to 3D PCB > Click the 3 dots icon next to Components in the Push to 3D PCB command panel > Click Exclude All > Push

2. After it's pushed to 3D PCB, there is no 3D models show up which is as expected

3. Back to 2D PCB

4. Push to 3D PCB > Click the 3 dots icon next to Components in the Push to 3D PCB command panel > Click Include All > Push

5. Now the 3D PCB should have the 3D Models now, let's check the result for those transistors.

Thank you very much for your time.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Best regards,

Helen

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

furaTT4KY — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 14:12:33 GMT

Thanks for the response, this procedure works great. All components are now displayed correctly and model linkage has been preserved.

Re: 3D Model Issue, different outcomes for the same Library

HelenChen-AutodeskQA — Thu, 27 Apr 2023 00:03:16 GMT

Hi @furaTT4KY,

Awesome! Thank you very much for your feedback.

Glad to see that works!

Best regards,

Helen