topic Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....? in Fusion Electronics Forum

is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

Bruce — Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:06:03 GMT

Hi all,

as mentioned above, this would be GREAT if it could be done....

just a thought,

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

edwin.robledo — Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:24:54 GMT

Hi Bruce,

We appreciate your participation on the forum. As you might already know, at this time EAGLE does take advantage of the cloud for managed libraries which allows mapping of 3D models and library sharing. At this time there are no plans to extend this capability for the design files other than leveraging Fusion Team as a collaborative team viewer with markup capabilities.

With Warm Regards,

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

kb9ydn — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 01:26:49 GMT

@edwin.robledo wrote:
Hi Bruce,
We appreciate your participation on the forum. As you might already know, at this time EAGLE does take advantage of the cloud for managed libraries which allows mapping of 3D models and library sharing. At this time there are no plans to extend this capability for the design files other than leveraging Fusion Team as a collaborative team viewer with markup capabilities.
With Warm Regards,
Ed

So the software that is supposed to unite everyone and everything under a single application, will have some data stored on the cloud and some data stored locally? That's super weird and confusing. I'll be able to work on the mechanical aspects of my designs from home or work but not the electrical parts?

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

matt.berggren — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:41:17 GMT

Thanks for your reply! To be sure, the Electronics workflow in Fusion does not depend at all on the Managed Libraries system in desktop EAGLE however Managed Libraries are there for existing EAGLE users still coming up to speed with Fusion to maintain their existing workflow and if need be, still use the Fusion Sync capability in EAGLE to interact with Fusion, especially when servicing legacy designs where migrating them to Fusion may not make sense.

The whole of this new electronics experience is based on cloud storage, cloud versions, sharing, collaboration and everything you've come to expect with Fusion. EAGLE had a legacy of desktop libraries being stored locally so there's a path for loading these into Fusion as well and as they are loaded, they will take on versions in Fusion Team and be stored alongside any other content you have.

In fact, opening a file in the browser will display in Fusion Team and the same redlining, markup, callouts, etc are all available, launching from the data panel.

We do not want to encourage non-versioned, non-managed data as that breaks some very important workflows for users who have come to depend on their data being wherever, whenever. I think what Edwin was a bit unclear on was whether the libraries in question were EAGLE's Managed Libraries or the new Electronics Library in Fusion. The Libraries in Fusion are fully supported by Fusion and the Managed Libraries are the previous incarnation of this from Desktop EAGLE. Both will work but Fusion will promote the use of Fusion Team, the Data Panel, and the cloud storage / portability / etc behind Fusion 360.

I hope that helps address the confusion!

Best regards

Matt Berggren

Director - Fusion Electronics, EAGLE, Fusion 360 Platform

Autodesk

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

matt.berggren — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:49:47 GMT

One additional item here that I just picked up on in Edwin's reply...It seems Edwin was commenting on EAGLE sharing Schematics and PCBs with users of Fusion via Fusion Team.

To be sure we leveraged some of what we'd gained with the acquisition of EAGLE to create the Electronics Design workflow in Fusion however much of this had to be redone to support this new experience in Fusion! Your question however seemed focused around a Fusion-native workflow. Desktop EAGLE will continue to support syncing to Fusion using Fusion Sync (ECAD/MCAD workflow) and Publishing to Fusion Team (a Release workflow) however everything in Fusion is native to the Fusion360 cloud back end and will be portable, versioned, and managed so you can do precisely what you asked which is start anywhere<>work anywhere<>view anywhere.

Hope that helps!

Best regards

Matt Berggren

Director - Fusion 360 Electronics, EAGLE, Fusion 360 Platform

Autodesk

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

kb9ydn — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:14:20 GMT

@matt.berggren wrote:
One additional item here that I just picked up on in Edwin's reply...It seems Edwin was commenting on EAGLE sharing Schematics and PCBs with users of Fusion via Fusion Team.

To be sure we leveraged some of what we'd gained with the acquisition of EAGLE to create the Electronics Design workflow in Fusion however much of this had to be redone to support this new experience in Fusion! Your question however seemed focused around a Fusion-native workflow. Desktop EAGLE will continue to support syncing to Fusion using Fusion Sync (ECAD/MCAD workflow) and Publishing to Fusion Team (a Release workflow) however everything in Fusion is native to the Fusion360 cloud back end and will be portable, versioned, and managed so you can do precisely what you asked which is start anywhere<>work anywhere<>view anywhere.

Hope that helps!

Best regards

Matt Berggren
Director - Fusion 360 Electronics, EAGLE, Fusion 360 Platform
Autodesk

Ahh, ok. That answers my question at least. Eagle and Fusion Electronics are separate applications that work independently. In other words, Eagle Desktop will save schematic and PCB designs locally while Fusion Electronics will save them in the cloud as Fusion always does. It also appears that you can move designs between the two. E.g. Eagle files can be opened in Fusion electronics and saved in Fusion Electronics (cloud). And Fusion Electronics designs (cloud) can be saved locally as Eagle schematics/pcbs.

So in a sense what we have now is Eagle desktop and Eagle cloud. I predict that any minute now Fusion users will start clamoring for Fusion Desktop to bypass the forced could storage of Fusion. 😉

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:11:12 GMT

As a follow on question...

As it seems Eagle will likely be replaced with the electronics module of Fusion 360 within the next couple of years, will Autodesk be offering any non-cloud pcb design product for companies with cloud security concerns? One of our clients is very concerned with security and probably would not go for our housing their designs in an offsite server.

I think this may have been addressed, but Fusion 360 is entirely cloud based, right? That is, is there a way to have local storage ONLY for Fusion design work?

Re: is cloud storage in the pipeline for eagle....?

Bruce — Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:43:38 GMT

A very good point WRT my original question...