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    <title>topic Re: loft twisting in Fusion Design, Validate &amp; Document Forum</title>
    <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266823#M83949</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;- I've spent a couple of hours looking at this.&amp;nbsp; This is a bug in Fusion or its modeling kernel.&amp;nbsp; It is what we call a "point mapping" problem.&amp;nbsp; You have 3 profiles here, that have exactly the same number of curves and points, yet Fusion incorrectly maps the points from one profile to the next.&amp;nbsp; Weirdly, this happens only on one side of the loft, not the other.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can interactively untangle the point mapping by dragging the white points around.&amp;nbsp; In this case, there are some extraneous points added that I tried to get rid of.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.03.54 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911369iDB7C9BAA1912B5DD/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.03.54 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.03.54 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried for a long time to untangle this loft, and failed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My next attempt was to try to take advantage of the symmetry here - just model 1/2 of the form, and mirror to get the other half.&amp;nbsp; So, I added midpoint lines to your sketches:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.07.04 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911370i74B35FF8D2625CBD/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.07.04 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.07.04 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then, I tried to loft the "good" half.&amp;nbsp; The preview looked great:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.13 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911372i33E86F7BEBC0048F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.13 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.13 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;but, on OK, it twisted:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.28 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911371i807D850B12AD5811/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.28 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.28 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The "bad" half, however, is OK, when done by itself:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.10.03 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911373i58A4F4106F2B25F0/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.10.03 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.10.03 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So, that is one approach - loft half and mirror.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The only other approach I was able to make work is to add lots of rail curves.&amp;nbsp; Usually, just one rail is enough to poke loft in the right direction, but in this case, it would not untangle itself until I added 5 of them:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.12.36 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911374i7B071882130C6DBE/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.12.36 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.12.36 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This seems to produce a desirable result:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.13.46 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911375iBF0CFA3802AF8711/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.13.46 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.13.46 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That's the best I have for now.&amp;nbsp; We will investigate this bug further.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for reporting it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 16:14:55 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jeff_strater</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-04-25T16:14:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>loft twisting</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10265670#M83947</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to build to build a bridge and one side comes out the way I want it and the other side twists. How do I fix the twisting side?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2021 21:53:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10265670#M83947</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-24T21:53:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: loft twisting</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266010#M83948</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have observed your sketch entity is not defined, please define some dimensions &amp;amp; constrains &amp;amp; try again, &amp;amp; use solid loft.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 04:37:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266010#M83948</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-25T04:37:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: loft twisting</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266823#M83949</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;- I've spent a couple of hours looking at this.&amp;nbsp; This is a bug in Fusion or its modeling kernel.&amp;nbsp; It is what we call a "point mapping" problem.&amp;nbsp; You have 3 profiles here, that have exactly the same number of curves and points, yet Fusion incorrectly maps the points from one profile to the next.&amp;nbsp; Weirdly, this happens only on one side of the loft, not the other.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can interactively untangle the point mapping by dragging the white points around.&amp;nbsp; In this case, there are some extraneous points added that I tried to get rid of.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.03.54 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911369iDB7C9BAA1912B5DD/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.03.54 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.03.54 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried for a long time to untangle this loft, and failed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My next attempt was to try to take advantage of the symmetry here - just model 1/2 of the form, and mirror to get the other half.&amp;nbsp; So, I added midpoint lines to your sketches:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.07.04 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911370i74B35FF8D2625CBD/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.07.04 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.07.04 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then, I tried to loft the "good" half.&amp;nbsp; The preview looked great:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.13 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911372i33E86F7BEBC0048F/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.13 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.13 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;but, on OK, it twisted:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.28 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911371i807D850B12AD5811/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.28 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.08.28 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The "bad" half, however, is OK, when done by itself:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.10.03 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911373i58A4F4106F2B25F0/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.10.03 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.10.03 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So, that is one approach - loft half and mirror.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The only other approach I was able to make work is to add lots of rail curves.&amp;nbsp; Usually, just one rail is enough to poke loft in the right direction, but in this case, it would not untangle itself until I added 5 of them:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.12.36 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911374i7B071882130C6DBE/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.12.36 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.12.36 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This seems to produce a desirable result:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.13.46 AM.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911375iBF0CFA3802AF8711/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.13.46 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2021-04-25 at 9.13.46 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That's the best I have for now.&amp;nbsp; We will investigate this bug further.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for reporting it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 16:14:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266823#M83949</guid>
      <dc:creator>jeff_strater</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-25T16:14:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: loft twisting</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266857#M83950</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See Attached...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="TheCADWhisperer_0-1619368753026.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/911379iC76BF6BD2B9AD9A3/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="TheCADWhisperer_0-1619368753026.png" alt="TheCADWhisperer_0-1619368753026.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Duplicate thread.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/loft/td-p/10265801" target="_blank"&gt;https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/loft/td-p/10265801&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 16:41:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266857#M83950</guid>
      <dc:creator>TheCADWhisperer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-25T16:41:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: loft twisting</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266894#M83951</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;thanks for helping I really appreciate it, I spent over 6 hours trying to find solutions.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 17:07:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/loft-twisting/m-p/10266894#M83951</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-25T17:07:31Z</dc:date>
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