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Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 12:53:34 GMT

I want to do a magnetic field simulation for a rectangular coil. So I want to design a rectangular coil in fusion 360. I know how to design a rectangular coil in fusion but the coil I want to design is little different. I also want layer on top of the coil. I am not able to add layers please someone help me. It would be really helpful for me.
thanks

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

TrippyLighting — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 18:16:22 GMT

Can you share your model?

If so, please export it as a .f3d file and attach it to a post.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

etfrench — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 18:28:27 GMT

What is the difference between a turn and a layer?

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 18:28:27 GMT

I don’t have model. I want to design a coil like that so that I can export it some software (let’s say cst studio) for magnetic field simulation

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

TrippyLighting — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 18:45:44 GMT

@MD_TOUSIF_ALAM wrote:

I don’t have model. I want to design a coil like that so that I can export it some software (let’s say cst studio) for magnetic field simulation

Then I suggest you make one and upload it and we'll move forward from there.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

Warmingup1953 — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:39:09 GMT

What about a simple hand-drawn sketch to at least get your core( see what I did there?) idea across to us.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:00:43 GMT

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

etfrench — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:08:04 GMT

Well, start by drawing a line with the outside (or inside) length of the rectangle. Add another line at 90 degrees, then one parallel to the first, then one 90 degrees the last which is the width of the wire shorter than the second wire. Continue this until you have 100 turns. Use this as the path in Plane along Path. Create a sketch on the path with the profile of the wire. Sweep this along the path. Rectangular pattern for the number of layers.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:54:05 GMT

Reference to the figure, suppose I have a long wire starting point A , after making 9 rectangular loops(sidewise)

i want to wrap the wire on top of the 9th loop, then 8th loop , similar way upto 1st loop (I.e wrapping in the backward direction). Then again wrap the wire on top of the 1st, then 2nd upto the 9th loop( forward direction)

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

Warmingup1953 — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:02:01 GMT

It looks better from afar than close-up...My attempt using Emboss to create a path for the "Slope" failed due to incorrect geometry...

and of course, the step out to subsequent layers and wind patterns will ad complexity...There has to be a better way I hear myself saying!

It is one Solid body but I guess it will need to have some tolerances so a wire of considerable length is created.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

etfrench — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:10:15 GMT

Try mirroring that, then use a joint to position it. Or do a rectangular pattern then add a 'U' shape to connect each.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:16:43 GMT

Okay let me try.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:24:33 GMT

Just for ref

https://www.kukcoils.com/world-of-induction/what-is-the-advantage-of-orthocyclic-windings

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

Warmingup1953 — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:32:14 GMT

Align helps but tedious and avoidable I'm sure!

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

MD_TOUSIF_ALAM — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:36:52 GMT

Thanks I will try to do

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

TheCADWhisperer — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 22:19:37 GMT

Is there a reason you need complex detailed geometry - or will a cosmetic texture that "looks right" suffice for your design.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

Warmingup1953 — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:10:11 GMT

Understood. Partly easy ...mainly difficult in Fusion 360 for me at least! The Crossovers and/or the step out to the next layer.

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

Warmingup1953 — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:19:30 GMT

Does this .STEP file work in your "other software"?

One Solid Body:

Re: Designing of a rectangular coil with some turns (let’s say 100) and layers( let’s say 5).

HughesTooling — Fri, 25 Aug 2023 10:19:30 GMT

In this post I demonstrated how to use a Swept surface with a twist to create a helix then trim to a helical rectangular form.

Mark