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    <title>topic Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch? in Fusion Design, Validate &amp; Document Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Forms that are closed "watertight" convert into a solid body, which is the grey cylinder icon.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Forms that are open like the T-Spline cylinder convert into a surface body, which is the orange cylinder icon.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you re-attach the updated model I can take another look at it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't click "undo" after creating an empty form. This is a bug, that has been reported recently and will take some while to get fixed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Simply delete the empty Form if you don't need it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A Modify-&amp;gt;Compute all is likely also going to fix that behavior and generally is a good idea &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:09:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>TrippyLighting</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-01-28T18:09:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13990169#M326364</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;BR /&gt;I have a top view and a side view of my boat, and I am trying to do a 3d model to print it. I also have a pretty bad 3d scan of the hull from my phone.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I tried creating several horizontal planes, and trace the 3d scan to a sketch on each level. I also traced the side profile and made those sorta match. I then tried to create a loft between the hull lines. That sorta worked, but the transom ending is strange. I am trying to have the loft match onto a closing curve I draw. I also made the transom with some 3d sketched, but I am having problems with closing that.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Since the deck is not flat, I created a plane 15 degree tilted - I would have loved a way to make a curved surface, but I can live with the tilted plane. I traced the outside of the deck and the cabin, but I cannot, even on the 2d plane, close the sketch. I tried to close the lines with Patch, but it wouldnt do anything- the OK button is grey. I was only able to close one part of the transom. For some reason, the other part, the sketch lines meet in the sketch view, but in 3d view, they dont.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Can I have some help with this? I want to make this for our wedding, and I have about a week to finish it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Here is a pic of an Oceanis 411:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="rprovideo_0-1769382536295.jpeg" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1613100i450ECB3C7938E89F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="rprovideo_0-1769382536295.jpeg" alt="rprovideo_0-1769382536295.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(I have first made the side view only and tried a flat, extruded version thats still in there, ignore that)&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2026 23:14:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rprovideo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-25T23:14:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13990794#M326382</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Loft! The Patch tool is a tool of last resort, or in cases where geometry cannot be broken down into quadrilateral geometry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Use as few splint points as you can get away with. Rather than adding spline points, work with the tangent handles to get the shape you are looking for.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Or work with Control point splines. Use a control spline with 1 more point than the degree. A 3-degree control point spline should have 4 points.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Use as few rails and profiles as you can get away with. No more than three of each for a given surface.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All of that will usually yield somewhat acceptable results.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Your time estimate is way too low, so you'll have to make compromises in quality and fidelity!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 13:36:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TrippyLighting</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-26T13:36:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13991095#M326390</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A modeling technique that is underappreciated is T-Splines.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Assuming this doesn't need to be a 100% accurate remodel of existing geometry, hardly possible with "that" scan, for this purpose T-Splines make this quick work:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="TrippyLighting_0-1769443409998.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1613273i9A006A6DF139968C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="TrippyLighting_0-1769443409998.png" alt="TrippyLighting_0-1769443409998.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="TrippyLighting_1-1769443433936.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1613274i384D1D22CE80D630/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="TrippyLighting_1-1769443433936.png" alt="TrippyLighting_1-1769443433936.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 16:07:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13991095#M326390</guid>
      <dc:creator>TrippyLighting</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-26T16:07:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13991649#M326440</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wow that is amazing. If you wouldnt mind, can you share a little bit of the process? I am very happy with the result, but would love to learn the way to do this. I tried to use sculpting, but never got a result anywhere near yours.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 21:47:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rprovideo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-26T21:47:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13991749#M326450</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yep. Here's a screencast.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2224942"&gt;@adam.helps&lt;/a&gt; , why is Fusion "swallowing" that T-Spline point ( at 11:15 into the video) when I repair the body?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;IFRAME src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/c4MppSDMAv8?si=kUJLAI_f_bsS6gyz" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen" title="YouTube video player" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin"&gt;&lt;/IFRAME&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 23:02:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TrippyLighting</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-26T23:02:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13991808#M326452</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;... &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;and&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; the next &lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"overlay"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; in the &lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Design Space&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Regards&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;MichaelT&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2026 00:04:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13991808#M326452</guid>
      <dc:creator>MichaelT_123</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-27T00:04:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13994295#M326547</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Trippy,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thank you very much! That was really informative! I am making some good strides Here. However, there are some things I cannot deal with, so may I ask some more questions?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;What is the easiest way to create a 'bent' Form?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have created a new deck, and I am probably printing it separately (so the hull can be upside down to print). I have created the deck parts on top of this. Strangely, some parts I created in Form have a different icon (the classic grey cilinder of a Solid) even though I created them in the Form menu. I am not sure what causes one item to stay on the yellow surface icon and what causes another to became a solid right away, but this causes some problems for me as I wanted to weld some of these together. I created these in the same Form step, and they are purple when I edit the Form, but then become different (with different names) after I Finish Form. Does it make a difference that one started as a Cylinder and one as a Box?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="rprovideo_3-1769614812204.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1613870i6442C8C27DA9D8EC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="rprovideo_3-1769614812204.png" alt="rprovideo_3-1769614812204.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="rprovideo_4-1769614831133.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1613871i2F69BF2E05310843/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="rprovideo_4-1769614831133.png" alt="rprovideo_4-1769614831133.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Update: yes, it does. A cylinder ends up orange and a box ends up grey. Seems a bit counterintuitive for me. I have now tried to redo the whole thing with a box (its amazing how many errors you realize just by trying to type a forum post), But the way You have created the face (and I used on the cylinder) alt+pulling a shape fails on the Box. And this whole thing is a bit of a mess, since a box, ending as a solid, is much easier to manipulate. The way to convert a cylinder (by thicken) fails a lot of the times, for example by the rudder I did. However, the alt+pulling method is much simpler to work on.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Oh, and very frequently (in this case I created a New Form in Surface window, and then clicked Undo I get into this situation where the bodies are all go missing from the browser, even though they are on the screen: Moving back and forth in the Timeline fixed this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="rprovideo_2-1769612648351.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1613845i718F9586D998FED2/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="rprovideo_2-1769612648351.png" alt="rprovideo_2-1769612648351.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 15:54:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rprovideo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-28T15:54:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: creating a boat hull - Loft or Patch?</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13994602#M326554</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Forms that are closed "watertight" convert into a solid body, which is the grey cylinder icon.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Forms that are open like the T-Spline cylinder convert into a surface body, which is the orange cylinder icon.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you re-attach the updated model I can take another look at it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't click "undo" after creating an empty form. This is a bug, that has been reported recently and will take some while to get fixed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Simply delete the empty Form if you don't need it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A Modify-&amp;gt;Compute all is likely also going to fix that behavior and generally is a good idea &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 18:09:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/creating-a-boat-hull-loft-or-patch/m-p/13994602#M326554</guid>
      <dc:creator>TrippyLighting</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-28T18:09:01Z</dc:date>
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