topic How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip? in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:09:23 GMT

Hi!

I am completely new in the area of Fusion. I hope that I put this post on right place.

The problem arises when I tryed to import 3D DXF file into Fusion. Can I, somehow, import this file? I can not find "Upload" command in the Data Panel.

Thank you for the help.

I have the message as shown in the picture

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

PhilProcarioJr — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:21:15 GMT

@Hrvoje-

You will need your 3d geometry in a different format.

Is there any other file formats you can export your 3d geometry to?

The upload button is here in fusion:

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

HughesTooling — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:28:04 GMT

DXF is fine if you use the data panel to upload, you can import surfaces, meshes and curves in DXF\DWG files.

Mark.

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:00:12 GMT

Yes, there are more export formats. I will try which one is appropriate for import in Fusion.

Here are all possibilities:

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

HughesTooling — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:12:18 GMT

Looks like DXF will work, there doesn't seem to be an option to export surfaces only meshes. Phil shows how to import using the data panel in his post above.

Mark

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:57:42 GMT

Thank you all for the will to help me. I started too early with the questions. It is necessary that I read certain number of tutorials and than ask the community for the help.

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

HughesTooling — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 14:01:38 GMT

What are you trying to import, curves or meshes. If it's meshes Fusion might not be the best program, depends on what you want to do with the mesh and how big they are.

Mark

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

PhilProcarioJr — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 14:33:05 GMT

@Hrvoje-

Like Mark said, to really help we need to know what your trying to import, also what do you want to do with the mesh once you get it into fusion?

What you plan to do with the model is going to make a huge difference here. You can try the DXF Mesh, but that has been hit and miss for me.

Also can you share a screen shot of the mesh you are wanting to import?

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:05:53 GMT

I will need more than one sentence to explain what I want to do. Here is the ship produced in shipyard "Uljanik" in Pula (1957.):

I want to made her model in the scale 1 : 70 (about 640 mm in length). I made a model of her using software DelftShip. This is how it looks:

The hull form is defined with 3 families of lines: stations, waterlines and buttocks.

I can made file with definition of each of these line families. Also, I can put in one file all these families.

Here are stations:

One member of AutoCAD forum told that Fusion is good for continuation of my work. Now, I want to do wooden skeleton which will define the hull's form. I can prepare wooden planks and cut them as defined by waterlines. Here are waterlines:

The thickness of the planks must be as spacing between the waterlines. I need G-code to cut the conture of each waterline on her plank. After giving the right conture to each plank, I can glue them together. Also, it is posible to glue all planks together first and than, using the G-code for the entire hull produce the hull as one entity, not plank by plank.

Extra problem is the surface of the deck, which is curved in longitudinal and transverzal direction. This means that upper side of this (topmost) plank must be processed using 3D G-code.

So, I hope that using Fusion I can import the hull form, defined in DelftShip, and than obtain the G-code for it.

I hope that I succedeed to explain what I am doing. I know it sounds stupid, but I am retired and, finaly, I can do foolish things. Nobody is paying me, all this time wasting is going on my account.

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

PhilProcarioJr — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:28:43 GMT

@Hrvoje-

I see, can you export to dxf mesh and post the file here for us to look at?

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:30:44 GMT

Actually, all this story with Fusion started with the question posted at AutoCad forum:

http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?96285-The-point-where-the-line-penetrates-the-plane&p=658271#post658271

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:57:30 GMT

@PhilProcarioJr wrote:
@Hrvoje-
I see, can you export to dxf mesh and post the file here for us to look at?

Here is DXF mesh. I can make the mesh with smaller number of definition points, if necessary.

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

HughesTooling — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:07:06 GMT

If you can get cross sections of the hull you could use loft to build a 3d model quite easily, then you could machine. It would be one piece no need to make each plank.

Mark

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

PhilProcarioJr — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:12:47 GMT

@Hrvoje-

Ok, that comes in as a mesh body......and a really high poly one at that. I would try just the curves dxf and upload that then open it.

If that works do like Mark said and recreate it in Fusion, it should be really easy with the curves.

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

HughesTooling — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:28:18 GMT

Don't know if thread might give you some ideas on working with cross sections.

Mark

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

PhilProcarioJr — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:32:16 GMT

@HughesTooling

Yeah if I had the curves I could show him an easy way to create this, if I had time I could create the curves from the mesh he posted but I'm on vacation and my wife would kill me...lol

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

PhilProcarioJr — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:37:09 GMT

@Hrvoje-

If you can't get the splines to import then use this plugin on the dxf mesh you posted to create new ones.

https://apps.autodesk.com/FUSION/en/Detail/Index?id=5742637258089280352&appLang=en&os=Win64

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:21:36 GMT

@PhilProcarioJr wrote:
@HughesTooling
Yeah if I had the curves I could show him an easy way to create this, if I had time I could create the curves from the mesh he posted but I'm on vacation and my wife would kill me...lol

Thank you, but the point is that I have to made all this by myself. Ti get the advice is OK and I appreciate your effort to help. And, of course, you must be very careful, not to lose the life.

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

Hrvoje- — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:22:55 GMT

By the way: what is "kudos"?

Re: How to upload 3D dxf file from DelftShip?

brianrepp — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:48:32 GMT

@Hrvoje- basically along the lines of a "like" or "thanks".... they're free, and encourage people to use them if they have been helped by someone (along with accepting as a solution) or if you like a post someone made.