topic Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

Reduce the number of digits in forms

Anonymous — Fri, 06 May 2016 18:03:14 GMT

I asked this question on the cam forum with no response. Why isn't there a "Need an answer" button in the CAM forum???

Is there a way to reduce the number of digits shown in forms? This example is from feeds and speeds, it's kind of distracting

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

jeff.walters — Fri, 06 May 2016 18:25:34 GMT

Sorry to say currently no. but it has been suggested a few time so it is on the list to look at.

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

Anonymous — Sat, 07 May 2016 00:27:30 GMT

Is it possible to edit the expressions so they will round to a sensible number?

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

Anonymous — Sat, 07 May 2016 12:52:45 GMT

What calculations are allowed in the expressions? Is there a list or instructions somewhere?

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

innovatenate — Sun, 08 May 2016 19:18:48 GMT

I haven't had any success using parameter values in any of the dialogs for 2D or 3D operations. I don't believe this is possible at this time. I can double check again with Jeff, who is more knowledgeable on Monday and follow up with you.

You may want to submit a feature enhancment request on the ideastation for this item. The link for the Ideastation is below.

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/ideastation-request-a-feature-or/idb-p/125

Talk to you soon.

Thanks,

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

Anonymous — Sun, 08 May 2016 20:13:40 GMT

@innovatenate,

It makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one that can't make parameter values work. It can be frustrating spending hours on something like this, just to find out it is not fully implemented yet.

I'm not going to bother with the idea station, because it's just a black hole. If the tool tables were finished with materials, I probably wouldn't need to alter the expressions to get proper paths.

Plus this isn't an idea, it's a bug or broken feature. It should just be fixed.

I can't imagine any possible scenario where a person needs to see a feed per tooth down to the 0.000000000 th digit. All those extra numbers just make it confusing and WAY to easy to make a mistake. It also looks very amateur to see the fields laid out this fashion. At a quick glance, 0.0002568988995 could very easily be mistaken for 0.0025689889953. In comparison, 0.0002 vs 0.0026 makes it a lot easier to see what's happening. also remember, there are about 10 of these unruly fields in each form!

You don't see these 12 digit long numbers in the model environment, why is it acceptable in cam?

Fields that are directly tied to another field should be grouped together to further reduce any confusion. For example, spindle speed and surface speed should be grouped, because they are directly linked. You could use either of these fields to get proper results, you don't need to enter info in to both.

Imagine if the speedometer and tach on your new sport bike showed the speed as 114.548240813 and the rpms as 12476.684507854. It's just cluttered confusing and unnecessary. Trying to do a quick glance for a reading is impossible, it's a crash waiting to happen

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

dave.anderson — Mon, 09 May 2016 19:22:51 GMT

I've checked with the develoers and this (Shift to expose Paramaters) s planned for the next Fusion Update.

Re: Reduce the number of digits in forms

Anonymous — Mon, 09 May 2016 20:43:38 GMT

@dave.anderson,

That's great to hear!

As long as were on the tooling form, how is it that the feed per rev isn't the product of feed per tooth x the number of teeth?

Should the feed per rev be relabeled plunging feed per rev? Even if the label is changed, feed per rev is still wrong. You still need feed per tooth to calculate proper chip load (1,2 or 3 flute drills, or even plunging with a 6 flute end mill).

These tool forms are very confusing and poorly laid out, plus because the tool tables aren't complete, you need to enter data into every one of these fields every time a new operation is done.

I cringe every time I hit the start button on a mill when using these unrefined tooling forms, a person shouldn't have to think this hard about the data in these forms.