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Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

LARA-Engineering — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:34:23 GMT

Hi
I'm new here (from The Netherlands) and have a first question.
Just started working with Fusion360ultimate simulation. But I can't find any feature to create shells for thin body's for meshing into plate elements, like can be done within Inventor. Does anybody know how this (thin body's/plates) works within Fusion Simulation? Normal solid elements does not work on thin body's, cause to much elements and nodes, long meshing-times and instability in results.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

John_Holtz — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:31:43 GMT

Hi Freddy. Welcome to Fusion!

Fusion Simulation does not have shell elements yet. For now, you will need to use one of our other simulation products (Nastran InCAD, Simulation Mechanical, etc.)

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

ken — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:47:41 GMT

You can try the Fusion 360 partner application SIMSOLID -- available in the app store. It can handle both thick and thin or large and small parts together in an assembly. It is based on new technology that does not require you to create a mid-surface and shell elements.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

Noah_Katz — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 21:22:22 GMT

As an old-time FEA user, SIMSOLID sounds miraculous.

Busy learning F360 basics now but will delve into further later.

Ken, in the app store it says SIMSOLID is free; is that for a trial period?

If so, how long, and how much does it cost after that?

I have a hobbyist license if that matters.

Thanks

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

ken — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:01:36 GMT

The plugin for Fusion 360 is free. It comes with a 30-day free trial of SIMSOLID. After that you can license SIMSOLID by a monthly or annual subscription. Price starts at $200/mo. SIMSOLID is a great complement to the embedded Fusion 360 simulation. It extends the analysis range to more complex parts (thick/thin, big/small features, many faces, etc) or very large assemblies. And, since there is no meshing, it eliminates all the typical FEA jargon stuff such as beams, shells, offsets, 1st order, 2nd order etc. that confuses many people.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

Noah_Katz — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:13:49 GMT

> Price starts at $200/mo.

Can the subscription be turned on and off at will?

Any chance it could be made more granular, like by the day, hour, or even minute?

Maybe a Medicare license? 🙂

I'm a retired mechanical engineer hobbyist and my use will be intermittent.

Thanks, Ken

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

ken — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:44:13 GMT

Well not from us. Autodesk is the only one that can fund pricing like that. 🙂 We have to keep our lights on. That said, we are open for them to re-license it and sell it directly. I guess you should ask them.

In any case, the ability to analyze thin walled structures directly w/o all the hassle of shells is a feature that people really like about SIMSOLID.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

Noah_Katz — Fri, 24 Feb 2017 23:41:04 GMT

OK, so pricing is via Autodesk and you handle the tech side?

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

Alessandra.G — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:20:42 GMT

Hi @Noah_Katz,

For the time being, the shortest subscription is the monthly one and we have no official information on any other subscription possibilities.

For further reference, you can have a look at our e-store for pricing and subscription models.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

ken — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:39:01 GMT

Sorry for the confusion. All pricing for SIMSOLID can be found here.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

Noah_Katz — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 20:22:06 GMT

OK, thanks, Ken.

Re: Fusion 360 simulation thin body's

Noah_Katz — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 20:23:40 GMT

Allesandra, I couldn't find SIMSOLID in the store.