topic Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

mufadal89 — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 08:01:13 GMT

How do I added hashed lines to show a location of section A-A on a parent view.

Havent been able to find an option to rectify this.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

HughesTooling — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 14:13:05 GMT

For this and your other question about leaders, it seems the drawing standard selected gives different results. Never gone into the standards enough to know if what you're seeing is right or wrong.

ASME looks like this.

ISO looks like this.

We should have overrides though.

Mark

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

DBVieira — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:55:28 GMT

ISO is definitely wrong!

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Thu, 17 May 2018 10:08:31 GMT

Is this functionality on the development roadmap?

As mentioned previously the ISO standard does call for a line of this type to be drawn between the section view arrows. The ability to toggle this on and off and/or change the style would be very useful.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

TimeraAutodesk — Thu, 17 May 2018 16:02:42 GMT

Which ISO standard are you referring to? Currently, we support ISO 128-24. We plan on supporting additional standard types (i.e. JIS) as well as additional versions of standards for ISO and ASME in the future, but that's a ways off still.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Fri, 18 May 2018 09:18:04 GMT

Hi Timera,

Some of the examples given in ISO 128-24 show sections of chain line connecting the section view arrows. E.g.

ISO 128-44, which specifically deals with section views, also gives examples where the arrows are fully connected by a chain line. e.g.

As the OP stated, currently in Fusion 360 there is no connecting line between section view arrows, when the ISO drawing option is chosen. e.g.

An option to add this chain line between the arrows would be very useful.

Thanks

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Fri, 18 May 2018 15:07:51 GMT

@TimeraAutodesk

As far as I know ISO128-44 is not a "different" ISO standard, but a part of ISO128 - "sections on mechanical engineering drawings".

And ISO128-24 is just one of 15 parts - "lines on mechanical engineering drawings".

Wikipedia screenshot

Whoww - I´m really interested in the reactions of our notoriously rude German Mechanical Engineering users, that just want to create standard-compliant drawings with Fusion 360. I can remember similar discussions, but that was with another 3D-CAD system and 30 years ago. Back to the future....deja vu

Oh wait, here is one.... @Anonymous

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/fusion-gt-desktop-connector-gt-inventor-19-gt-part-dwg/td-p/7999432

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

TimeraAutodesk — Fri, 18 May 2018 20:04:07 GMT

Yep, we're talking about the same standard here. As you can see in your first screenshot, the section line does not cross the geometry, this is the logic we built the feature to, and we did use a simplified approach to the leader style of the arrows. I'll have to do some more research with my Design counter-part to better understand why that decision was made, so thanks for bringing it to our attention. As a side-note, if you notice in the second screenshot you included, that chain line that looks like it's connecting across the section cut is actually an extension of the center marks between the holes, it's not that the section cut is documented across the width of the cutline. We are continuing to work through our Roadmap, and I expect that when we get through the items documented on that mural, we'll be freed up to begin adding additional standard support, greater flexibility with standard manipulation and toggling between them within a drawing. Thanks for the feedback!

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

TimeraAutodesk — Fri, 18 May 2018 20:07:20 GMT

@Anonymous Yep, I was referring specifically to that part of standard ISO128. We get customers who are used to working in older versions of standards frequently and have requests against them specifically, which is why I asked. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Mon, 21 May 2018 16:01:29 GMT

Thanks for the update. I take your point about the second screenshot being extended centre lines and not the cross section line itself. I think having the small section of chain dashed line which does not intersect the component, is needed to adhere to ISO standard(s) though. If this could be added to the roadmap when possible I believe it would be very useful.

Thanks Again

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Mon, 21 May 2018 16:15:21 GMT

Actually, I've just had another look at ISO 128 parts 24 and 44 again. It seems examples are given both with the chain line crossing the part and with it not crossing the part. For examples where the chain line crosses the component, there are instances where this line couldn't be an extended centreline or similar.

I'll do a bit more digging and see if I can find the rules governing how this line should be displayed.

Thanks

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Tue, 22 May 2018 10:50:34 GMT

Ok, so if you follow all of the cross-references in the various parts of ISO 128 regarding cross sections, you eventually get directed to ISO 128-40. The exact statement regarding the 'cutting line' (the term used by the standard) is:

"The position of the cutting plane(s) shall be indicated by means of a long-dashed dotted wide line (cutting line) of the type 04.2 according to ISO 128-24:1999 or 04.2.1 according to ISO 128-23:1999. A straight cutting plane shall be drawn to a suitable length for legibility (see Figure 1).

If the cutting plane changes its direction, the cutting line should only be drawn at the ends of the cutting plane, where the cutting plane changes direction (see Figure 2).

The cutting line may be drawn to its full length (with a long-dashed dotted narrow line of the type 04.1 according to ISO 128-24:1999 or 04.1 according to ISO 128-23:1999) if necessary for its legibility."

So it seems that if Fusion 360 is going to be fully ISO 128 compliant, users need the ability to toggle on/off or trim the cutting line as we see fit.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:34:06 GMT

Hi @TimeraAutodesk just as a followup, is there likely to be any room on the drawing update roadmap for this feature in the near future?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

TimeraAutodesk — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:38:04 GMT

Hey @Anonymous, thanks for following up on this.

I do have this logged in our backlog for the future, but the team is currently really buried and busy with some other projects concerning DXF/DWG and Parts List enhancements, so at the moment I'm not sure where we would be able to fit this in, but it likely won't be for quite a while. If anything changes, I've made a note to reach back out on this thread to give you all an update. Thanks for your patience - we certainly still have a lot of good work left to do on the Drawings workspace and we're working as quickly as we can.

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:02:16 GMT

Hi @TimeraAutodesk

I appreciate your team may have higher priority updates to deal with at the momement. Thanks for being realistic about the time for implementation. Like you mentioned, if you could update this thread if and when this feature makes it on to the update roadmap it would be very much appreciated.

Thanks Again

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

benny_wellekens — Mon, 02 May 2022 15:48:30 GMT

Following the same ISO 128 standard, Inventor is drawing the section line correct:

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

martin.starckWJ2ZS — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:01:04 GMT

Any update on implemenation?

Thanks

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

benny_wellekens — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:49:27 GMT

Fusion 360 Drawings Roadmap:

https://app.mural.co/t/autodesk2145/m/timerahart2/1475171276107/0945259b7c22117012173ea2be3c9151fec1f184?sender=7580e7e8-7bfc-4658-b0fb-dca3cc76d59d

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

martin.starckWJ2ZS — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 12:36:53 GMT

Thanks,

I see the change isn't planned yet. From the number of topics regarding this issue it should probalby have a slightley higer priority if you ask me. 😉

From a sales side Fusion 360 is an excellent tool, but not beeing able to meet the engineering praxis for the drawings I'm not able to use theese as the final versions at the moment.

Thanks

Re: Drawing : section lines - No hashed lines present

benny_wellekens — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:04:06 GMT

Interesting video's:

15 HUGE FEATURES Inventor has that Fusion 360 doesn't have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iCo1AgrDAs&t=5s

15 MEGA Fusion 360 Features YOU WISH Inventor had:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcraS39SHlI