topic Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection? in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

How to keep snap points visible for selection?

changedsoul — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:22:45 GMT

I am trying to move an object, and I would like to place the origin of my move at the center snap point. When every I try to move in that direction, either all points disappear, or it snaps to some other point. I am not able to freeze the snap points so I can select one.

I thought I remember reading if you hold the ctrl key down, it would lock them so you can select them, but that doesn't work, and I have tried many other key combinations with no success.

Is this possible?

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

paul.clauss — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:38:11 GMT

Hi @changedsoul

Thanks for posting! Holding down the CTRL key should allow you to pick the center point - on Macs you will use the CMD key instead. Also, placing the mouse cursor over one of the circular edges in the hole at the front of your part should make the Move pivot point snap to the centerpoint.

You could also consider creating a sketch point within the component being moved at the desired pivot point and select it if you continue to experience problems.

Please let me know if this helps - I am happy to take a look at the behavior you are experiencing if you would like to create a screencast or share your design with me!

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

changedsoul — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:16:01 GMT

The ctrl key, that's what I thought, but it's not working. I tried to record a screen cast but it kept crashing.
Perhaps it's how fusion is configured that changes the behavior of the ctrl key?

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

SaeedHamza — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:31:51 GMT

Hi,

I see that you attached a picture

Could you point out where is the point you want to set the pivot at

Regards

Saeed

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

paul.clauss — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:51:36 GMT

Hi @changedsoul

Thanks for the response! I had a look at your crash reports and did not see any for this morning? Were you given the option to submit one? Or was it Screencast that crashed rather than Fusion? I have seen some issues with Screencast lately - usually uninstalling and reinstalling Screencast has worked to fix the issue.

I played with this a bit more on my end and found that the CTRL trick does not really work with the Move command like it does when defining a Joint origin - my apologies for not catching this earlier! I tested with very simple geometry (a straight, uniform hole through a box) earlier and must have tricked myself into thinking it worked the same... it can be difficult with more complex geometry. I would suggest that you create a post to include the UI (holding CTRL or CMD to maintain the currently shown snap points) in the Move dialogue at the Fusion 360 Ideastation - you will certainly have my vote! There are no settings related to this UI behavior, so I believe that this is working as intended in the Move command.

To move forward with your current design, I have found that hovering over one of the circular edges at the edge of a feature like yours seems to snap the pivot to the midpoint - is this working in your design? Is it possible for you to create a sketch point at the desired pivot location? If you'd like to attach your design and describe where the pivot point should be I am happy to have a look!

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

etfrench — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:44:15 GMT

You can try moving the dialog box so it is next to the center point. The point may remain visible long enough for you to select it.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

changedsoul — Tue, 22 Aug 2017 01:20:11 GMT

Yes some times I am able to get it to select the correct point by moving it all over and hope it snaps. This particular one is proving to be a bit of a pain.

I have tried drawing a sketch, but for some unknown reason, I am unable to select the point on the sketch at all. Like its ignoring it.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

changedsoul — Tue, 22 Aug 2017 01:22:21 GMT

@etfrench wrote:

You can try moving the dialog box so it is next to the center point. The point may remain visible long enough for you to select it.

I tried that with no success. Thanks for the tip though. Looks like maybe the move command slipped through the cracks when programing the CTRL key 🙂

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

etfrench — Tue, 22 Aug 2017 06:23:43 GMT

You can also create a sketch on the same plane as the Origin point, then project the geometry. This should create a sketch point at the Origin point which you can then use as the Origin point in the Move|Point to Point dialog.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

changedsoul — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 00:58:52 GMT

Its a crude way to get it done, but it works. Thanks.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

zarsss — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:39:11 GMT

Is there a plan to get this fixed? Quite annoying that you cannot rotate component at the middle of square hole.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

etfrench — Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:52:47 GMT

The work around is so simple, it probably makes the bug fix priority low.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

lewholt — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:26:00 GMT

Seems really stupid having to clutter up designs with unnecessary sketches just to work around a bug where someone forget to include the ctrl key in the move command. Yeah, lets replace a keyboard shortcut with a new sketch for each use..

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

etfrench — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 09:05:25 GMT

How would using the Ctrl key help to select a non-existent point? Your complaint has little to do with the thread topic bug, which has been fixed.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

lewholt — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:27:23 GMT

The point is not nonexistent, it is perfectly clear when mouse is over the surface surrounding the hole/cavity/feature, but as soon as the mouse leaves the surface towards the center of the hole/cavity/feature the points disappears making selection impossible. exactly as in the original post, and the video posted later. When doing joints the ctrl key keeps the surfaces points visible when leaving, for example into a hole or cavity, making it possible to select the center point of a cylindrical hole. When trying to do the exact same thing with a move its impossible, and the suggested "solution" to a missing key binding is creating extra sketches?

If as you say the bug has been fixed, how do i attach the pivot point to the center point of that slot?

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

etfrench — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:16:13 GMT

Use the Ctrl key (on Windows 10)

For some reason the Screencast didn't capture holding the Ctrl key down:

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

etfrench — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:25:58 GMT

It is almost always better (and easier) to use a joint than the Move tool. Each move requires the compute engine to calculate the position of every object for each move.

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

lewholt — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:37:38 GMT

That is exactly how it should work and how i want it to work! 😃

And I know wich key is the ctrl key (using regular pc and win 10) but for me it dosn't work like that. the pivot point gets lighter grey when i press ctrl, and it is still impossible to select the correct point. I'll install the screen capture software and try to record it. But it feels like my ctrl key is not getting trough to fusion, can it have been rebound to something else?

Re: How to keep snap points visible for selection?

raphalsQE9BP — Mon, 01 Apr 2024 19:17:01 GMT

Were you able to fix that bug? This post is from 2017, I can't believe it didn't get fixed!