topic Re: Selection filter in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

Selection filter

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:29:03 GMT

Among many many bugs i have found this one the most frustrating, just today.

The selection filter randomly deselects whatever filters it likes, and i end up not being able to click on features in my sketch, or bodies or joints or whatever re-imagined term the developers have used to re-invent themselves.

Maybe it should have been called Fusion 359, because it doesn't come full circle as per functional software.

Re: Selection filter

jeff_strater — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:37:57 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

Can you explain the problem you are having in more detail? Under what circumstances do you see this deselecting of selection filters? Can you provide a screencast?

Fusion will change the selection filter if you are in a command. So, for instance, if you start the Extrude command, the filter is set to Body Faces, Sketch Profiles, and Text Selection, because those are the only valid selection types for extruding. But, that should not be "random" in any way, it should be quite predictable.

Jeff

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:36:45 GMT

It changes randomly when i go in and out of commands, just rotate my model or whatever, and the changes are really irrelevant as to the function im using, also the selection method changes by itself, from square to pen o whatever.

Re: Selection filter

TrippyLighting — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:51:17 GMT

Around here, we make screencasts and provide models to back up our claims!

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:04:40 GMT

ok im at work, so i'll take time out on my lunch, if i have it.

it happened just now again.

im in sketch mode.

i sketch and dimension a few circles.

after the third circle was dimensioned, i couldnt select anything else than components.

went to check the selection filter.

everything except component is deselected.

im STILL in sketch mode whilst this happens.

no clue.

As per screencast, i do wish i had the time, i have no clue how to do that and havent got the time right now to get into it, we're in rapid development.

Never ever had problems like this in Inventor or Solidworks. Not even in inventor pro 2009....

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:25:23 GMT

OK, seems to be deselecting all except Component in the filter, consequently.

I do have to select Component as a selection priority because of it also changing seemingly randomly, but this shouldnt affect the way the filters behave, right?

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:02:52 GMT

jesus christ now it wont respond at all to my sketches, just dims the sketch after i press E and nothing is selectable even if I make it visible. Yes the sketch is complete. Rebooting the software three to twelve times during a day is getting tiring.

Re: Selection filter

TrippyLighting — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:40:11 GMT

abel.menessy wrote:

Never ever had problems like this in Inventor or Solidworks. Not even in inventor pro 2009....

I'e never had these in a few thousand hours in Fusion 360 either, thus it is hard to relate to what you are observing and to figure out what might be the root cause.

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:53:17 GMT

Well, maybe Fusion runs stable for you when you make your little lamp thingies but it doesn't handle 500+ assemblies, or components, that well.

Thousands of hours in Fusion sounds about right, the amount of time consumed from crashes, waiting for up/downloads is unlike any kind of software i've ever used, or any of my colleagues for that matter.

Re: Selection filter

TrippyLighting — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:05:18 GMT

Maybe you change your disrespectful tone, because it would appear to me that you and perhaps your colleagues need help ?

I have Fusion 360 crash on me too, but not nearly with the frequency you describe, thus I/we need more information to provide that help.

I have almost 30 years experience with computer graphics, CAD and 3D modeling. I possibly have a few tricks up my sleeve that you and your colleagues don't.

If Fusion 360does not perform well for you, then I suggest you use another product.

Some of these lamp thingies are assemblies with 400+ components, BTW that have not crashed on me whatsoever 🙂

I also work on a number commercial products with Fusion 360. So before you come to any rash conclusions as to what my experience level with Fusion 360 might be, maybe educate yourself a little.

Chances are you'll also have fewer crashes with Fusion 360!

Re: Selection filter

jeff_strater — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:24:45 GMT

Sorry, I did not see the updates to this thread yesterday. Apologize for the slow response.

Sorry to hear that you are frustrated, but @TrippyLighting is correct - without some more information about the problems you are seeing, it's difficult to help. There could certainly be a bug here, but I am not aware of any actions that will "randomly" change selection filters. If you can provide us with some more details (screencast and model are the best), we can look into it.

Regarding performance, you are correct in that Fusion is not as fast on large assemblies as Inventor. It wasn't intended to be used on huge models. Trippy is right, though - there are techniques that can help manage this, if you are willing to try them.

Jeff

Re: Selection filter

Phil.E — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:15:10 GMT

@Anonymous

FYI: this statement stands out:

"I do have to select Component as a selection priority because of it also changing seemingly randomly,"

Component Priority when ON, merely edits the Selection filter such that only Component is selectable.

Are you seeing the results of Component Priority as expected, or are you saying Component Priority is ON when it should not be, such as during sketching?

Here is a link to the screencast app:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast

You also mention crashing. I'm not able to find any CER reports from you. If you see this dialog please add your email address and some comments and send it in. Thanks!

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:12:21 GMT

thanks guys, was a stressful day, excuse the bad tone, will do it when i have time, changed focus atm.

the reason why i select component priority is because that too, is randomly deselcted. maybe my spaceball is spaced out or something. crashes are maybe more because HP computer rather than fusion, albeit upload/download times are frustrating when working more traditionally like part-assembly.

Re: Selection filter

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:15:51 GMT

btw, i love fusion for private hobby projects and can see how its beneficial in that area more so than in a professionally "traditional" application.

I love it at home but fear it at work hehe.

you guys are on to something and did one hell of a nice program for that demographic, i guess with this user feedback base you could, can and will implement lots of features.

goodie goodie