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Fusion to Revit

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:54:51 GMT

Hi Fusion Users ,

I want to learn Fusion/Revit Architecture collaboration.

And Are there any documents or videos related to Revit Architecture and Fusion ?

Thanks for helping.

Tolga

Re: Fusion to Revit

BrettWright — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:44:03 GMT

hi Tolga,

Just to confirm, are you saying that you want to learn both products here?

Fusion 360 is a separate product , just like Revit is.
Collaboration for Revit, is another separate product. It's an add-on product that allows you to "collaborate" with others on the same Revit model at the same time.
- So, you'd need to own Revit, and Collaboration for Revit for this scenario.
Regarding your question about YouTube videos, there are several for all 3 of those products, so if you just search on their names, you'll find plenty.

Also, if you have other product specific questions. Be sure to leverage the proper forums for each so that you can search for questions that have already been answered or ask a new one that hasn't been already asked. (links below)

Re: Fusion to Revit

cekuhnen — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 23:31:25 GMT

@Anonymous @BrettWright

what do you want to use Fusion for?

Building furniture models for being used in an architecture space or also explore architecture form

development with a much easier tool like Fusion compared to Revit?

Revit is a plan architecture BIM with some very basic object modeling tools forced into it.

We use actually Fusion to design objects we later load into Revit because we find what Revit gives

us as design tools for a space is plain insufficient for detailed to medium ok work.

The problem is however if you utilize too many non native Revit models it slows down the scene.

Revit isn't really fast to be honest ...

Re: Fusion to Revit

SaeedHamza — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:51:30 GMT

Hi,

I'm an architect who uses both F360 and Revit, and I'm currently working with a friend of mine on achieving possible kinds of links between both products

Mainly, people use F360 to create furniture and insert it into Revit as a family, but there is actually more to it than just this ...

You need to create a conceptual mass in Revit whenever you want to create a shape that can't be obtained using the normal wall command, but. what if the shape is organic, like a fluid shape building ... That's when F360 comes in, you can create fluid shaped masses using the sculpt environment and then create your own openings using the split face tool in Fusion, and then all you have to do in Revit is to use the wall by face command to get your building

I can provide a screencast if that doesn't make sense for you

Regards

Re: Fusion to Revit

cekuhnen — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:17:56 GMT

@SaeedHamza

Yeah and considering that Revit also uses parametric in a quite similar way Fusion does you can

work with both very well together.

We just did a complete house design in Fusion rather than Revit because for the concept exploration

it was the best environment to work in. We can work in Fusion like in Revit (planes are floors ect).

Crazy how many love SketchUp ...

Re: Fusion to Revit

SaeedHamza — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:51:56 GMT

@cekuhnen

I totally agree about how people prefer sketch up! But maybe just because F360 is a new software

In Jordan, I teach F360 for architects mainly to do what I described above, but I also tell them have the best of both worlds, F360 and Revit

@cekuhnen wrote:

We just did a complete house design in Fusion rather than Revit because for the concept exploration

it was the best environment to work in. We can work in Fusion like in Revit (planes are floors ect).

You're right, it can be done with a lot more control than Revit when it comes to designing, but truthfully, it's a wrong thing to do, because doing architectural models and simulating them ( Rendering and making a video ) and exporting architectural drawings with architectural details, etc ... all these should be done in Revit and not F360.

That's why creating Families and Conceptual masses in F360 and the rest in Revit is (From my experience) the best collaboration between both products

Here is a project that is featured by the Autodesk Student Expert Network, and it's done by one of my students using the approach I mentioned about the conceptual mass

Regards

Re: Fusion to Revit

cekuhnen — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 19:02:11 GMT

@SaeedHamza

I think you missunderstood me.

I was making a point for using Fusion for the conceptual thinking part and not jumping right into the so called industrial standard app.

I see that in the industry in general a lot how designers (not you) resist to open their mind to new tools and approaches.

In a design project you have different phases and needs. I see Fusion here more as an extension of 3d sketching.

Obviously no replacement for a proper architecture app.

My reference was more considering how restrictive Revit actually also is and thus not giving a designer really good tools as an allrounder.

Revit is pretty focused on what it does well.

Compare it with other architecture apps for example that are parametric offer BIM but are less limited in their design freedom.

Anyway you and I agree on this anyway - just wanted to make it clear where I was coming from. Can be easily misunderstood via text like here.

BTW nice project! I like the light study.

Re: Fusion to Revit

SaeedHamza — Sat, 21 Oct 2017 19:29:59 GMT

@cekuhnen wrote:

I see that in the industry in general a lot how designers (not you) resist to open their mind to new tools and approaches.

In a design project you have different phases and needs. I see Fusion here more as an extension of 3d sketching.

Obviously no replacement for a proper architecture app.

My reference was more considering how restrictive Revit actually also is and thus not giving a designer really good tools as an allrounder.

Revit is pretty focused on what it does well.

You're right the text isn't enough some times to get the idea someone is trying to give, sorry for the misunderstanding 😛

And I totally agree, Revit is so focused on what it does, and if people fully consider this, they will notice that they need more than just Revit to complete all of the design stages starting from the conceptual thinking of a building, and that Revit comes at the end of the designing process to get the final results

BTW, could you please share some pictures of that project you worked on (that you mentioned above)?

@cekuhnen wrote:

BTW nice project! I like the light study.

Thanks for the compliment, the lighting was done using V-Ray 🙂

Regards