topic Re: Fusion360 is unuseable in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

Fusion360 is unuseable

Probasco — Thu, 17 May 2018 01:35:26 GMT

I am having massive problems with Fusion360. Stuff moves without being told. I will enter stuff in the X field and it will move in the Z or Y directions. Stuff changes when I save. Stuff moves when I create sketch on a face. Document's units of measurement will change without me telling it to. This is un-useable. I need help.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Anonymous — Thu, 17 May 2018 03:53:38 GMT

Yep, know how you feel. I too find the program good but also a pain in the butt.

David.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

lichtzeichenanlage — Thu, 17 May 2018 06:15:33 GMT

This post is unusable 😉

Calling points without showing the details will not help you. So do us and you a favor and open a thread per topic, provide the related design and if you want to be very good a screencast that shows your issue.

@Probascowrote:
I am having massive problems with Fusion360. Stuff moves without being told. I will enter stuff in the X field and it will move in the Z or Y directions. Stuff changes when I save. Stuff moves when I create sketch on a face. Document's units of measurement will change without me telling it to. This is un-useable. I need help.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

TrippyLighting — Thu, 17 May 2018 10:28:36 GMT

@Anonymous @Probasco Maybe you guys start watching some or better all of the tutorials in the support and learning section. The menu is right on top of the browser here in the Forum so not hard to find.

Once you're done with those you have at least some foundation so you can ask halfway informed questions.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Probasco — Thu, 17 May 2018 13:22:34 GMT

I have been in the learning and tutorials for months along with doing several tutorials with Lars Christiansen. The software is just clunky. It’s only gotten worse. I’ve uninstalled, cleaned the caches with the cache clearing tool, and reinstalled Fusion. We’ll see how that works.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

LMD001 — Thu, 17 May 2018 14:15:40 GMT

@Probasco

Not mastering sufficiently a software is not the same as "Fusion360 is unusable".

Like any real tool you'll need to give yourself enough time to learn it.

This forum is one of the most helpful you will find, state your problem clearly and the Autodesk Fusion 360 Team as well as the many very knowledgable forum members will advise and help you.

Best regards,

Ludo

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Probasco — Thu, 17 May 2018 14:29:34 GMT

I am not asking if I’m doing it right. I know I am. The software is messing up. The field for X Y and Z get shifted sometimes and don’t correlate to the appropriate fields. Moving around with a 2 finger drag becomes zoom. The gestures I would use for Zoom are no longer responsive. This isn’t a “learning curve” issue. This is a software issue.

I have noticed that this typically occurs once my MacBook has gone to sleep or if I close the lid and reopen it these problems occur. Why is everyone on her like, “It can’t be a software glitch. You’re obviously incompetent and not doing it right.”?

I’ve done more digging and found several helpful threads on the subject and there doesn’t seem to be a solution yet.

The responses I’ve received make me less apt to want to be a member of the “community" as you’re all kind of being rude about my problem.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

LMD001 — Thu, 17 May 2018 15:12:23 GMT

@Probasco

@Probasco wrote:
I am not asking if I’m doing it right. I know I am. The software is messing up. ...

Really surprised to read that you found my post to be rude. This was not at all my intention.

The Fusion 360 forum uses, most of the time, a calm and polite manner of communication, geared at getting help.

Best regards,

Ludo

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

TrippyLighting — Thu, 17 May 2018 15:29:00 GMT

@Probasco your most recent reply is the first time you have actually provided some usable detail about what your problem actually is.

I personally use the trackpad rarely and gestures I have totally ceased using, regardless whether I use a mouse or the trackpad. On Mac OS even on a 2017 high spec MacBook Pro the gestures and right click menu are sluggish. I use the context sensitive tool box (S-Key0 almost exclusively now.

In genreal I would suggest getting a real mouse with 2 buttons and a clickable scroll wheel if you want to do real CAD and 3D modeling work. While the trackpad on the newer macBook Pro's is truly remarkable and really makes the computer (for me that is), for 3D modeling work, regardless whether that's CAD or mesh modeling there is really no replacement for a real muse.

So that also eliminates the Magic Mouse which I tried for over a year and abandoned that effort

I've not experienced the crashing issues at all. But it's been an issue before and one of the reasons that might happen is when you close the lid the computer leave Fusion 360 in a state where it assumes the Internet connection is still current. When you open the lid and your internet connection is not established quickly enough, that could be a reason for Fusion 360 crashing or not waking up. That is no excuse, no software should ever crash but in the real world ...

Have you submitted these crash reports ?

It is always a good idea to do so and if it happens repeatedly, create a thread dedicated to that issue and note the CER number you are provided with. You may be asked to provide he crash logs. This info is essential for getting this fixed.

If you don't get the right response I know which AD folks to tag 😉

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Probasco — Thu, 17 May 2018 15:49:34 GMT

I guess I’m just getting annoyed because my intention was to see if anyone else is having this problem and all I keep getting back is “here are the learning forums”. I apologize for the frustrated response.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 05:42:44 GMT

It's always entertainment when the "experts" at Autodesk get upset with people who have a tough time using their software... when in reality - Fusion 360 can be a HUGE PAIN IN THE BUTT!!

I can't do the simplest thing... copy and paste a line.... I mean... really? Copy and pasting a line... can't be done... I'm a 20+ Rhino user... I know it very very well...but not being able to just copy and paste a line in Fusion... LOL... come on now.

I did a lot of searching...and AD people have "opened a ticket" about this...and there's nothing on the web about how to fix it... so my question is... how in this great earth of ours in 2019.... how in the HELL do you copy and paste a line in Fusion 360? The checkbox is greyed out... copy and paste won't work... it's just maddening.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 05:43:41 GMT

And that was a rude response.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 05:47:38 GMT

Copy and paste... click the thing to be copied... (mind you, you can't move it and copy) - copy it... go back into sketch mode.... click on the proper direction... then paste... (pasted line comes in at a strange angle....) - lol! What?! It's this difficult?! Why?

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

etfrench — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:02:54 GMT

I copy and paste lines quite often. They always appear exactly where I expect them to. Start a new thread for the subject with a screencast of the problem and you'll probably find out why it's not working the way you expect.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 11:01:36 GMT

OK... will do.

I REALLY want to use Fusion 360 - and I've been just going through tutorials...but it just isn't like what I'm used to... and some of the issues I face are very simple solves in other apps... I'll do a screen cast.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

TheCADWhisperer — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 12:31:20 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
It's always entertainment when the "experts" at Autodesk get upset with people who have a tough time using their software...

Just to be clear - no Autodesk employees have responded (yet) in this thread. Just other Fusion users.

Create that Screencast.autodesk.com video, and if you can, provide additional information on your Design Intent. File>Export and then Attach your *.f3d file here for reference.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

g-andresen — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 12:50:54 GMT

Hi,

ctrl+c > ctrl+v > move >ok

copy + paste single line & move

günther

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

TrippyLighting — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:08:49 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

OK... will do.

I REALLY want to use Fusion 360

Why ?

I am REALLY interested in why people want to use Fusion 360 in general, but particularly what the motivation is for people that already have 2 decades of experience in other 3D applications and are likely very fluent in them.

I defend Fusion 360 when criticism is unwarranted.

I am also probably one of its harshest critics. So much that I was recently asked in a private email from a Fusion 360 team member whether I had lost confidence in Fusion 360!

I can very closely relate to your experience. When I started working with Blender 15 years ago I had already worked with CAD for 15 years , 5 of those in Solid Works. It took me a long time to understand why I could not just select an edge and put a fillet or a chamfer on it. I thought it was stupid!

Privately I could not justify the expense of a SolidWorks license and there weren't low cost CAD alternatives available at the time. So Blender seemed the only viable alternative. I am glad I stuck with it.

I recently started looking into Autodesk Alias and had a similar experience of stumbling half blind through unfamiliar territory. My motivation there is that I would like to learn how to have full control over a NURBS surface down the ability to modify individual control points. That isn't available in Fusion 360.

So, what is your motivation ?

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

GRSnyder — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 23:02:56 GMT

@TrippyLighting wrote: When I started working with Blender 15 years ago I had already worked with CAD for 15 years, 5 of those in Solid Works. It took me a long time to understand why I could not just select an edge and put a fillet or a chamfer on it. I thought it was stupid!...I am glad I stuck with it.

Ha! That's interesting - I've been playing with Blender for a few months at a very low level just to deal with meshes. My initial (and current) impression was and is "What a self-hating disaster of a UI." In large part, this has to do with Blender's mediocre support for space mouses and trackpads on macOS, but there are lots of other ways it behaves like a relic of the 1980s, too.

My point isn't to dump on Blender but to note that there are actually relatively few apps that I've had this "it's different I hate it" response to. My initial take on Inventor was "What a beautifully designed application - I didn't know there was anything this polished in the CAD domain." Fusion 360 made an even more positive impression. Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Xcode... all pretty complex apps, but I felt right at home in all of them. Actually, the only other app I remember having this WTF response to is AfterEffects.

Re: Fusion360 is unuseable

TrippyLighting — Sun, 24 Nov 2019 00:23:55 GMT

@GRSnyder Stick with it. You'll see what I mean 😉