topic Re: Pattern suppression problems in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:16:41 GMT

Hi,

I am having some issues when I try to suppress occurrences in my pattern:

1. the arrows to adjust the spacing hide 2 of the suppression checkboxes. I could get them unchecked in the end but it took me some time to find the exact right spot on where to click. See the screenshot below.

2. When I select the pattern in the timeline later to modify it all checkboxes are checked again. I am not quite sure if this has always been this way since I use patterns quite often, but maybe I never modified a suppressed pattern.

3. Is there an out of the box way of creating a staggered pattern, apart from patterning 2 already staggered features?

Best regards,

Christian.

suppress checkbox hidden

Re: Pattern suppression problems

chrisplyler — Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:07:56 GMT

It can be annoying, I know.

If you're suppressing every other instance, why not just use twice the spacing distance instead? That's how I did these stars:

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:44:10 GMT

I am not sure if I understood you correctly, but how do I get the staggered rows with just one pattern?

Re: Pattern suppression problems

chrisplyler — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 17:41:48 GMT

It required two patterns.

I was making the point that I don't need to suppress every other instance in either pattern, as I just used 2X the spacing distance in each of them.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:49:23 GMT

Your idea is a good work around, but instead of one feature and one staggered pattern you have to create 2 parameters, 2 features and 2 patterns. I am not sure why the stagger option is not available, I cannot remember that I have ever used a software that could create patterns and didn't have this option. Even when I did textures in Corel 20 years ago I had the stagger option.

The suppression issue I would consider a bug. I cannot think of a reason why the pattern should not remember this setting.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

chrisplyler — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 23:16:50 GMT

Agree about the forgetting suppressed instanced problem. It's annoying.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 19:24:32 GMT

I am working with suppressions again and I would like to bump this thread. The problems still exist.

.) Pattern controls covering the suppression checkbox

.) Suppression checkboxes are all reset when you edit the pattern again. Has been logged as bug FUS-43527 in 09-2018

Any news on these issues?

PS: I am also going to bump the other thread that had the bug number mentioned.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

TrippyLighting — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 11:25:33 GMT

Please provide a model that exhibits that behavior and also create a screencast of the workflow.

In a quick test I was not able to re-create the faulty behavior. Details matter!

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 13:21:33 GMT

...here you go:

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 13:22:36 GMT

...and the other screencast for obstructing the suppression checkboxes

Re: Pattern suppression problems

TrippyLighting — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 20:06:39 GMT

Please share the model. Export as .f3d and attach to next post.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 20:41:28 GMT

...I started with a new file. Does it not happen when you try to replicate what I did?

Re: Pattern suppression problems

TrippyLighting — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 20:51:16 GMT

When I open your file, I can suppress instances and upon editing they will remain suppressed.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 20:57:55 GMT

...that's odd. I try to modify that file at work tomorrow and report back.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:04:58 GMT

Sorry for the late reply, I had do go away with work for a couple of days.

So I tested on my PC at work as well as on my laptop and the behaviour is exactly the same as my screencast shows. I also tried re-importing the model I attached here but this does not change anything.

Maybe someone else that reads this thread could try to reproduce the issue and give feedback.

The only thing I could try is to clean fusion off my pc and reinstall it... Any more ideas?

Cheers,

Christian.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 08:25:19 GMT

...just cleaned fusion off my PC and did a fresh install. still the same.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

g-andresen — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 12:00:05 GMT

Hi,

@tergu wrote:
...and the other screencast to hinder the suppression checkboxes.

This can be avoided in this way: > change to Extent

The other error (resetting the settings) does not occur with me.

günther

OS: WIN 10

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sat, 07 Sep 2019 14:16:30 GMT

...like Peter said, details matter.

Thanks to the idea of Günther regarding the checkboxes I think I figured out the problem. Could someone please follow the exact same steps I used in my screencast to verify?

It seems like if I use "spacing" to create a pattern it will not retain the suppression properties. If I use "extent" it will, even if I change it to spacing afterwards and modify the parameters.

Cheers,

Christian.

Re: Pattern suppression problems

tergu — Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:16:17 GMT

Anyone?

Re: Pattern suppression problems

TrippyLighting — Sat, 12 Oct 2019 15:27:15 GMT

I followed your example provided in the screencast above and was not able to reproduce this.

As there have been several updates in the meantime it is possible that one of them fixed this behavior.

Can you try out again on your side if you still see the behavior ?