topic Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive in Fusion Design, Validate & Document Forum

Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:21:03 GMT

I have a parametric project box design and I want to be able to derive it to a new file so I can customize it and make variations.
When doing so, the new file wont let me edit the parameters. I've favorited them in the original file and I can see them in the new one but I cant edit them as they are greyed out.

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

jhackney1972 — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 15:46:52 GMT

If the Derived file is still linked to the original, you must return the original file to edit parameters. After saving the original, the parameters will update it the file it is derived into. You can break the link to the derived file and the derived parameters will be available in the new file.

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:51:54 GMT

Oh that is really interesting. Gonna try that later on, cheers!

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 18:26:55 GMT

Thanks for your suggestions. I broke the link and that made the parameters no longer greyed out. But when I change them, nothing happens to the model.

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

jhackney1972 — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:36:54 GMT

If you derive the model, with the parameters, into another model and then select them as Favorites in the parameter table then Break the Link these parameters will be available in the new model. They will not be connected to any model you may have also derived at the same time. The parameters will just be available to assign to any new models you create.

I believe you are looking for a different workflow. If you have an External model with assigned parameters and they are Favorites, you can INSERT, not derive, that External model into a new model and Break the Link. If you do this the parameters will be available for each model you insert and then break the link. If you insert more than one of the same external model and break the link, Fusion will number them for you to keep them separate and each set of parameters will control the respective model. Keep in mind the first one's parameters are not numbered but every one after that will get a number behind each parameter. The video will explain this better.

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Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:41:59 GMT

That is exactly what I want. Thank you, will test this in the morning.

However, as far as I can remember, if I insert a model like that, I wont be able to edit it (like making holes etc), right?

Is there a way I can have it both ways (being able to change parameters on it AND make holes and changes on it)?

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

jhackney1972 — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:49:53 GMT

No, the parameters only show up in the new model, from the inserted External Model, when the link is broken. There are always variations in this workflow, experiment on your own. What I use a lot is an External Model that contains only my parameters I use a great deal, no model. I insert it into many models as a way of creating parameters I use all the time.

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Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:52:20 GMT

Will see if this solves it in the morning, will hit the accept solution if it solves it.

Thanks

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

JamieGilchrist — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:12:11 GMT

Hi @danielodland9GJME, have you checked out Configurations? It will handle this without having to work through the Derive workflow.

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:27:08 GMT

That doesn't work in fusion free, does it? I'm just a hobbyist.

Re: Greyed out parameters when using derive

danielodland9GJME — Sat, 24 Aug 2024 08:12:10 GMT

This does indeed solve it. I have (of course) tried inserting before but didnt realize I had to break the link. I went down a rabbit hole with this and learned a lot 😃 Thanks a lot.