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I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 07:54:33 GMT

Hello. I finally figured out fusion!!!! to the extent to where I now know how to make something (shocker)...I stopped following tutorials to a T and instead just watched what each function does, and applied it to what I want to do. Simple, less confusion.

However, I was going ham making a product, and two small issues are hanging me up, these are self inflicted of course.
I need to know how to merge a ton of bodies (rookie error) into ONE.
Right now, I have over hundreds, due to me attempting to make holes for my cheese grater. I got the look, however, my computer becomes un-responsive when I try to select the specific feature.
I put all of the bodies into one component, which in hindsight, was a bad idea...I was just adamant on making holes, and I totally forgot the smaller details.

Anywho, I attached my god awful file to the forum, anyone making a small video showing how to combine everything into one body, instead of having hundreds of small bodies, would be the best person ever. (component 1:1, 3:1, and 2:1...It's a cluster f of epic proportions....I can see Peter Doering having an aneurysm over my stupidity already).
Also, a small show case on how to make the "graters" with out screwing up royally like I did, for future reference.

Needless to say, I actually enjoyed making my model up to this point and ran into no real issues like I normally do, until I shot myself in the foot.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

etfrench — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:27:18 GMT

Creating a new component in the Combine|Join operation works.

@jeff.strater: A plain Combine|Join (without creating a new component or save tools) fails silently, deletes the original tool bodies, then creates new tool bodies.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:11:29 GMT

I assume making all of those extrusions into one body, instead of multiple is not possible?

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:13:13 GMT

I ask because whenever I want to extrude the grate plate into the body and then combine it, My computer ends up freezing, mainly due to the fact that there is so many bodies being extruded.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:16:28 GMT

NVM, I just made a new sketch on the body face and made a rectangle and cut it. that solved my issue. Much thanks to the fusion masters.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

TrippyLighting — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 00:57:20 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

(component 1:1, 3:1, and 2:1...It's a cluster f of epic proportions....I can see Peter Doering having an aneurysm over my stupidity already).

No, I won't. As long as you recognize your potential for improvement you'll be happily learning and ... improving 😉

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 03:02:49 GMT

Might you be able to help me with the one small thing? I've never come across how to actually do this, but I have a top part (main grater body) and a lower body. I need the split part of the lower body to sit flush inside the main body of the cheese grater, while the "lower" part of the split body remains flush with the main cheese grater body.
I've attempted offsetting the top portion of the split body, even attempted to resize it, but to no avail (resizing the top split portion of the base causes a space between the lower split body of the base).

I've attached a file and video (and reference images) explaining what I mean by this.

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etfrench — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 05:13:26 GMT

The preferred way to do this would be with a joint. The Support & Learning section would be a good place to start learning about joints.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:24:48 GMT

Here is my version of your grater with a few less steps and components. I think most graters have the cutting edges staggered so I took the liberty with that aspect. Best of luck.

Kelly

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 06:24:49 GMT

Here is my version of your grater with a few less steps and components. I think most graters have the cutting edges staggered so I took the liberty with that aspect. Best of luck.

Kelly

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 07:11:40 GMT

Interesting concept. I like how you mention the staggered edges, I wanted to do that, but seems like I went too deep into the process and shifting them over would be near impossible at this point, lest I go through the whole process of creating the cutting edges.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

chrisplyler — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 15:42:19 GMT

When I look at your Project Browser and your Time Line, my first reaction is that while you have figured out Fusion at a basic level, you haven't yet figured out how to think ahead about your desired geometry and how to use the tools efficiently to get it.

So I threw together something similar. Examine my Project Browser and Time Line. Compare them to yours. Now, I'm not expecting you, as a beginner, to have a deep and thorough understanding of desirable workflow just yet. I'm just pointing out what should be a goal for you as you progress through the learning curve.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 16:30:40 GMT

Hmm, yeah, that's far less than what I did.

I mean, I have to applaud myself, I did "that" much with out having to ask for help, haha. So I feel quite good about myself, now I just have to focus on using the tools at my disposal in a more efficient manner.

One thing though, I want the grate plate to be "separate" (i.e, have a defined line around the cutting edges when it sits on the body face). It's more aesthetic than practical reasons.
I simply couldn't find a tutorial on a cheese grater at all, so I had to wing it and do it myself, with the tools I know how to use so far, only downside is, the tools I know how to use required me to use extra steps. I also did a majority of my model in about 25 minuets, whereas before, it would have taken me hours.

So while I am rudimentary in using tools, I'm quicker.
I took what you showed me before on my cell phone (I got an A on the project BTW), and used it on this model for the cutting edges (creating an offset plane and rotating it and drawing on it).
Now what I plan to do is use the loft command (why didn't I think of that -.-) and recreate my model using more efficient methods.

My question for you Chris is, on the cutting edges, how did you get it to extrude AND create the cutting edges? That was a PITA point for me.

Re: I finally figured out Fusion 360! But one very small issue I did to myself.

chrisplyler — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:29:26 GMT

The first loft was just a half cone on the surface as a Join.

The second loft was a half cone to the INSIDE surface as a cut.

The top edge of the two lofted cones was coincident. But the bottom points of the two cones were separated by the thickness of the base. So the result is that the cutting cone is thin at the top edge, and gets thicker as it goes down. Here is a picture of the second loft.

I just did it quick and dirty like that to make the point. This geometry is NOT easily manufactured, and not very strong especially where the cutting edge meets the flat surface. I imagine it would get ripped out after a bit of grating with some hard cheese. That's why MOST mass produced graters you see will be die stamped holes instead of something like this.

If you want to make a pretty expensive, milled grater plate, you will want to do something like this, where you mill the conical bosses first, then mill through them with a tapered bit, then chamfer the sharp edge.