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Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

01165479 — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:33:31 GMT

Hello, what I want to achieve, is simple "if there are x number of holes, perform this equation" via parameter.
I got "a" defined in mm and "hole" defined without unit.

I run into trouble when creating the unit less parameter for the required equation
"invalid string ";" in expression"
Here is my code

if((hole==2; (a / 2)); (hole==3; ((a * sqrt(3)) / 2)); ((hole==4; (a * sqrt(2)) / 2)); (hole==5; ((a * sqrt(50 + 10 * sqrt(5))) / 10)); (hole==6; a); (hole==7; (a / (2 * sin(PI / 7)))); (hole==8; (a * sqrt((2 + sqrt(2)) / 2))); 0)

Could anyone help me review this?

Re: Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

CGBenner — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 14:05:44 GMT

@01165479

Welcome to the forum. I've moved your post here for better visibility. Good luck!

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g-andresen — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 14:26:00 GMT

Hi,

Please share the file with the equation

File > export > save as f3d on local drive > attach to post

günther

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g-andresen — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:58:20 GMT

Hi,

have a look at Product Documentation

günther

Re: Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

johnsonshiue — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:02:06 GMT

Hi! Either there is a bug in the Fusion equation parser or there is an inconsistent unit issue (not all terms have the same type of unit). Please share the f3d file here. The forum experts can help take a further look.

Many thanks!

Re: Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

etfrench — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:08:05 GMT

Impossible to tell without knowing how each parameter has been defined.

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g-andresen — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 08:47:21 GMT

Hi,

1. each condition is introduced with an IF.
2. if you want a value without units, you must divide by mm at the end. (Reason: a has units)
3. the unit rad must be added for the sine, because otherwise Fusion assumes that PI is the number 3.14 and adds the unit deg.
@johnsonshiue Is this intentional?

4. @johnsonshiue

the values PI ~ 180° and 2*PI ~ 360° are wrong for the sine.

(view in My Videos)

günther

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johnsonshiue — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:08:09 GMT

Hi Günther,

Many thanks for sharing the file and the comments! I do believe this is the intended behavior. Fusion equation is indeed unit sensitive. If you enter a value without a unit attached, the default unit for the particular function will be added. The default angular unit is degree, not rad. You may change it in the Preferences -> Default Units.

Thanks again!

Re: Trouble with long equation using IF parameter

CGBenner — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 10:38:33 GMT

@01165479 Did the information provided answer your question? If so, please use Accept Solution so that others may find this in the future. Thank you very much!

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g-andresen — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 10:46:30 GMT

Hi,

Many thanks for the feedback.

Is there an explanation for the sine 180deg & 360deg ?

günther

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johnsonshiue — Wed, 02 Oct 2024 14:22:03 GMT

Hi Günther,

Regarding the values returned from trigonometric functions, the minute numerical deviation is due to how these functions are being approximated numerically. Some programs limit the number of decimal places so that the noise is not shown. In Fusion, you may add a wrap around the functions by using "round()." With or without the wrap, the result should be the same.

Here is an explanation of why such deviation exists.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51820357/c-trigonometric-function-returns-unexpected-value

Many thanks!

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g-andresen — Tue, 01 Oct 2024 17:58:13 GMT

Hi,

Many thanks for the info.
I came across this behavior by chance and don't currently have a design example where this could play a role.

günther