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Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

e_yiing98 — Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:24:34 GMT

[ FlexSim 21.2.4 ]

Hi, I have tried build a kiva model according to https://answers.flexsim.com/articles/107103/example-kiva-system-model.html

I am doing research about high density storage, and trying to evaluate its performance using flexsim. I will start with A* and floor storage. The allocation of cart is almost same as the example, but number of aisle will decrease to increase space utilization of warehouse.

There are some rule:

1. Planning path before AGV start moving

2. Choose a path that AGV will move the least carts that blocking the way of target cart to work station

3. AGV could not move the blocking carts in the way of target cart

I wonder if it is feasible in flexsim. Any suggestion or advice is much appreciated!

Thanks!

Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

Jeanette_Fullmer — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:44:57 GMT

Hello @Emily K,

I do not have experience creating a Kiva system however there are many example model and questions about Kiva systems in the forum. If you search "Kiva" you will find several. This particular post you might find helpful.

Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

connor_a — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 17:20:36 GMT

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Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

joerg_vogel_HsH — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 18:26:33 GMT

There exists a dev talk video on youtube

https://youtu.be/3AQ-cjOS9tY

Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

e_yiing98 — Fri, 31 Dec 2021 08:30:01 GMT

Thanks @Jeanette F and @Joerg Vogel ,
I have searched all the topics related to kiva and tried to simulate the model according to the video before I asked this question.

The rules stated were reference from a paper studying high density storage. I would like to simulate its rules using flexsim, but I have no idea where could I start...211206_DEMO.fsm Attachment is a simple model using logic above.

Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

jason_lightfoot_adsk — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 13:51:49 GMT

You might find that you need to use the Astar API. @anthony.johnson may be able to provide you with a better idea of how to proceed.

Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

anthony_johnsonT83CM — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:33:13 GMT

Attached is a very quick and rough cut of how you might go about it. I assume that your main goal is to implement digging, but optimized for the least amount of digs. This model is a starting point for doing that.

It implements its own internal A* algorithm for defining the "path" by which you should dig out items (CalculateLeastDigPath). As part of this algorithm, it implements a high cost if the path goes through an item that is in storage, i.e. it must dig to get to the item. Thus, it should find the item that results in the lowest cost.

Once I have calculated the path, I have AGV2 dig it out. Then AGV1 picks the item. Then AGV2 puts the dug items back in their original spot.

To get it done quickly, I am minimalist on logic for where to place an item that you dig out (just one location, i.e. overlapping items), where to put the dug items back when the pick is finished (the same spot where they were) and how to put the picked items back into storage (I just destroy them). You'll need to figure out how your algorithm should do those things. One thing you'll need to keep in mind is to keep AGV2 out of the way of AGV1. Sometimes AGV1 will get stuck because AGV2 is idle and in AGV1's way, so when AGV2 goes idle you should move it out of the way.

I would suggest using object flows instead of global process flows. Object flows are, in my opinion, more intuitive for implementing the logic of a smart Agent/robot in your system.

I also changed out your queues for a floor storage object, as I believe that's a much easier way to store items.

211206-demo-modified.fsm

Re: Suggestion to start simulate a high density storage

Jeanette_Fullmer — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 19:54:37 GMT

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