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Two questions related to the user interface

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 05:43:41 GMT

Hello,

I recently upgraded from 8.1.1 to 8.3.0 and noticed some regressions in the user interface.

I would appreciate if they are reverted to the original behavior.

1. Hidden toolbar buttons could be barely selected when there is not enough horizontal space

When there is not enough horizontal space on the screen, EAGLE hides some of the toolbar buttons.

I remember they could be displayed inside a dropdown menu when I click on the arrow button in the prior versions.

In 8.3.0, the toolbar itself extends downwards where the extra buttons are displayed.

I need to carefully move the mouse cursor from the arrow button to the region in which the buttons reside,

during which the extended part will disappear if I accidentally move the cursor out of the toolbar area.

This routine significantly undermines my productivity typically when I route and view some document on the same screen.

I can hardly change the via diameter and drill while I am routing.

Could you kindly revert this behavior to the old one?

2. "Managed libraries" cannot be disabled from the user interface

I have seldom used the standard libraries in the prior versions, and instead, maintained my original library in a separate directory.

Thus I could avoid waiting for the libraries to load when I invoke the ADD menu for the first time.

(On a slower machine it takes several seconds to load the libraries every time)

In 8.3.0, I am unable to find a way to always prevent the standard libraries from being loaded.

I have to "unuse" the libraries every time I launch EAGLE or I encounter unexpected delays when I hit the ADD button.

Could you kindly inform me of a way to disable the standard libraries permanently?

Please forgive me for my poor English as I am not a native speaker.

The new routing tool is splendid by the way, thank you in advance.

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

jorge_garcia — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:31:43 GMT

Hi @Anonymous,

I hope you're doing well. Thanks for your comments! In regards to issue #1 could you post a picture? I'm having trouble reproducing your behavior for me, when I click the arrow the whole menu expands to the right and I can just hover to any of the missing icons. I'm using 8.3.0 the arrow doesn't expand down, rather it expands to the right.

For #2 the developers will be adding some functionality to help disabling the default libraries. For now you can add a couple of lines to your eagle.scr to disable the built-in libraries when you first start an editor. Open the file in a text editor and under the SCH: heading add the following lines:

USE -*;

USE mylibrary.lbr

The first line disables all of the built in libraries( Another idea might be to add that command to a shortcut that way you can easily disable the built-in libraries whenever you want. The second line allows you to put your library into USE immediately after you disable all of the default libraries.

A more extreme idea would be to remove them completely, but I don't encourage it.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 02:41:19 GMT

Thank you for your response.

As for #1, this is what it looks like when the EAGLE board window is snapped to the right half of the screen, on Windows 10:

The screen has the resolution of Full HD with the zoom factor set to 125%, which I believe is a common setting.

If I click on the arrow button on the "parameters" toolbar, the toolbar expands vertically like this with some animation:

In order to reach to the "diameter" combobox, I have to move the cursor across the window without leaving the toolbar area which is quite narrow.

As for #2, I am so glad to hear the feature will be added.

I also confirmed that your solution works for me.

It is a shame that I did not even know about that startup script until now.

Thank you again.

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

jorge_garcia — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 21:06:20 GMT

Hi ihara381,

Thanks for posting the picture. I'll share this with our UI folks and see what they say.

Thanks for participating!

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 21:22:23 GMT

@Anonymous If you would like to remove the standard libraries included in Eagle, open the Manage Library window (under Library > Manage Libraries...), go to the Available tab, select the libraries you would like to remove, and click the "Delete" button. This will remove the local copies of the standard libraries, which also means that expanding Libraries in the Control Panel will be faster.

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 21:37:00 GMT

Thank you for taking this serious and reacting quickly.

I am looking forward to seeing a fix to this problem.

@Anonymous After testing your solution, I think I would rather wait for the future updates for two reasons.

First, the "Delete" button becomes disabled when you select multiple libraries to be deleted.

I believe this means I have to click 402 times on the button to get rid of everything.

Second, I actually need the standard libraries, under a rare situation though.

Sometimes it turns out that I was just reinventing the wheel.

So I would prefer a solution that could be undone somewhat easily.

Anyway, thank you for your reply.

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 23:10:42 GMT

@AnonymousThe delete button should work with multiple selection. Perhaps try closing the Manage Libraries window and try again?

Also, once you delete the library, you can always re-download it from the Available tab of the Manage Libraries interface. It just removes the local copy. In that way, you can then select the checkbox "Only sh ow local libraries," and you won't see the standard libraries unless you choose to redownload.

Check out this GIF for what that looks like.

Hope that helps!

Re: Two questions related to the user interface

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 23:22:44 GMT

I was misunderstanding why your solution did not work for me.

I was trying to first select all the libraries listed in the "Managed libraries" dialog and then click on the "Delete" button.

Actually some libraries listed in the dialog were not even downloaded, so they could not be deleted.

When I checked the "Only show local libraries" checkbox, such libraries are filtered out and selecting all the libraries does not disable the "Delete" button.

Your solution seems to be as effective as the first one.

I am sorry I spoke too soon.