topic Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize in Dynamic Blocks Forum

hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:05:33 GMT

Hi,

posting here since I didn't find anything in Forum.

I am new to dynamic blocks.

The shape attached is supposed to be an electric switches closet symbol.

It needs to be resized along X and Y axis.

Parametric blocks work for lines, but I didn't succeed to tell hatch to do the same.

Any clue?

Thanks

christian

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

handjonathan — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:18:25 GMT

Hi @christian_serena

Thanks a lot for posting your question to the forums!  

If the hatch is created using the "Select Objects" option (and as long as the hatch is associative), then the hatch can be included in the stretch.
 
We look forward to hearing back from you with more information so we can help you as a community! 

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

Libbya — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:51:01 GMT

Make sure the hatch is associative and stretch the boundary. Do not stretch the hatch itself! Post the BLOCK if you need further assistance.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:58:29 GMT

to @Libbya

Yes, it wan't associative.

I tried to make it associavite, however, a "non applicable error" occurs

again.... ;(

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

fkellogg — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:18:04 GMT

You must re-hatch the area, as I have not seen that you can re-associate a hatch.

You must then make sure all other Actions include the hatch, just to be sure.

Hatch associativity is turned on by default and is controlled by the HPASSOC system variable {use 1}.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

Libbya — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:19:31 GMT

@fkellogg wrote:

You must re-hatch the area, as I have not seen that you can re-associate a hatch.

You must then make sure all other Actions include the hatch, just to be sure.

Hatch associativity is turned on by default and is controlled by the HPASSOC system variable {use 1}.

You should NOT include the hatch in any of the actions! You should only include the hatch boundary.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

fkellogg — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:21:37 GMT

I have plenty that do, and work just fine.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

Libbya — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:24:00 GMT

Good luck with that. Stretching the hatch is not helpful and there situations where including the hatch in the stretch action's selection set will actually cause it to lose associativity.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:01:57 GMT

Frankly, once stretched the whole shape (and associative hatch would follow), associativity is not gone.

This, in my little newbie experience.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:05:13 GMT

@fkellogg : thank you, it works!!

here is a sample

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:36:13 GMT

Hope that its' not off topic here.

Now that hatch isseu is solved, a new one comes from text

attached you might see a text "x" that won't follow stretching actions as well as the hatch.

Already checked text properties but still cannot associate it with shape resize.

Sorry for troubling

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

fkellogg — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:19:47 GMT

You may need to add a "move" Action to the Stretch parameter.

If you want to keep the text centered, apply a distance factor of 0.5 to the move action.

(not sure what exactly this "distance factor" is actually called)

Another method I have used is to use a dimension as the text. Strip the dimension of all lines, arrows, etc. and edit the text as needed (static text, not a change-able Attribute, nor the distance of the dimension). Text will stay centered and as a bonus, it will stay upright even if a Rotate action is used.

CFK

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 16:31:34 GMT

I am very unsure how to add a "move" action to the strecht parameter.

Adding it from Action list (the same way I did for stretch the whole shape), either to the text or to the linear parameter, I end up to form a scrambled shape or no moving action at all.

I believe it needs to make a relation between text moving to shape stretching.

Using a dimension as text won't be a solution, since the text you see is a block attribute and must keep that way.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

fkellogg — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 16:42:42 GMT

You add the Action to the Stretch Parameter. the little Move Icon attaches itself to the Stretch icon. You will click select the text itself to be moved. You may need to pay attention to the "start point" vs. the "mid point" criteria.
I am busy with work now, so I can't get into the details. Learning by doing, along with trial & error is how I have figured things out.
I am a HUGE fan of Dynamic Blocks, and I still have a lot to learn myself.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

Libbya — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 16:46:00 GMT

Even though I know what you mean, semantics are sometimes important. There is no such thing as a 'stretch parameter'. I think what you meant to say is, "associate a move action with the linear parameter that already has a stretch action associated with it".

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:42:41 GMT

Yes. What you wrote is exactly what I meant. Sorry for bad semantics.

I'll try my best from now on.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

christian_serena — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:25:51 GMT

Thank you @fkellogg.

It actually works fine with normal text, lines, shapes, but not with "attribute text".

Still trying endlessy.

Re: hatch does not follow dynamic block resize

Libbya — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:27:27 GMT

It should work fine with attributes provided all attributes within the block have unique tags and their property 'locked'=YES.

Post your block if you want better/further assistance.