topic Re: Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden in Dynamic Blocks Forum

Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden

danBVWEC — Fri, 07 Mar 2025 17:41:34 GMT

Is there a way to have a blocks attributes remain visible in the properties window even when the attributes are set to 'hidden' by their visibility state?

I know that ATTDISP can be used to always show (or hide) attributes that have been set to Invisible=true in the attribute properties, but this question is about attributes whose visibility state is hidden, rather than the attribute being set to invisible.

Re: Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden

MMcCall402 — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 13:11:32 GMT

What if you kept them visible in all states but scaled them down to be microscopic when you don't want to see them in the drawing, just in the properties.

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K_Kubat — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 06:43:25 GMT

Do not switch off the attributes via the visibility status but set the property of the attribute to Invisible = Yes

Re: Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden

danBVWEC — Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:49:08 GMT

Hmm, I'll have to have a think about how that would work as there are a lot of elements that need to be hidden for each state.

In practice I want users of the block to be able to select one of somewheer around 6 different 'states' for the block.

One state should actually hide everything except a single text attribute, but it woudl be useful in that state to be able to see all of the other attributes in the properties panel.

The other states have that one text attribute visible and a selection of other attributes depending on the selected state.

If scaling can be driven by a drop-down in an equivalent way to the way that visibility states can be selected then that might actually help simplify the block anway as some of the variants are to do with the size of some of the attributes as displayed in the block (and the position of those attributes in the block as well, obviously, as other elements scale).

I feel that this solution is potentially heading into a lookup tables area, so maybe I need to revisit how to use those properly as I haven't had to use them in soooo long.

Thanks.

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danBVWEC — Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:51:22 GMT

That's not what I'm looking for, unfortunately, as that is a design time decision.

The block has different uses where the user needs to be able to choose what is displayed from that block in the drawing via a drop-down. Setting the attributes as Invisible=Yes in the block editor will permanently hide them (unless ATTDISP=ON), which is not the required functionality.

Re: Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden

doni49 — Thu, 13 Mar 2025 18:16:39 GMT

Not like this? When the Vis State is set to 2, the attribute is not shown but still shows up in the properties. As soon as I change the Vis State to 1, the attribute is shown.

Re: Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden

danBVWEC — Thu, 13 Mar 2025 18:42:51 GMT

Hmmm, it's not working that way for me, I'm afraid.

When I select Visibility State = 2 the attribute is not shown in the properties pane (and it is not visible in the block itself as expected).

When I select Visibility State = 1, the attribure IS shown in teh properries pane, and it is shown in the block itself.

This is exactly the bahavious I have seen with my own blocks, but your screenshots show different.

(I am on AutoCAD LT 2025, but I wouldn't have thought that this is an LT restriction...)

Re: Show block attributes in Properties panel when visibility state hidden

h_s_walker — Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:48:18 GMT

@danBVWEC Look at the attached drawing. It uses distance parameters to scale the attributes