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    <title>topic Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021 in Civil 3D Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;This is not your model base file. Everything in this file is referenced short cut. Try opening the drawing where these shortcuts originated from and go from there.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:26:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:26:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9548899#M94453</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I get this message when i open my model file. Anyone have any ideas, get the same message when i try to open in C3D 2018.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="terryl_0-1590765168812.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/777425i0FA2482BC45F5AAF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="terryl_0-1590765168812.png" alt="terryl_0-1590765168812.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 15:14:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9548899#M94453</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T15:14:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9548917#M94454</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can go forward with versions of C3D but you can't go back.&amp;nbsp; If this drawing was opened with a newer version of the software you will have to continue the project with the newer version.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 15:19:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9548917#M94454</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T15:19:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9548931#M94455</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It was started in 2018 and i get the same message no matter what i open it with. Project is almost done but can not get in the model to make some changes.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 15:23:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9548931#M94455</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T15:23:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549168#M94456</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can you upload the drawing&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:08:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549168#M94456</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:08:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549181#M94457</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Here you go.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Terry&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:13:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549181#M94457</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:13:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549192#M94458</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I had no problem opening up in my 2021 version.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Audit found no errors.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Bill&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:23:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549192#M94458</guid>
      <dc:creator>wfberry</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:23:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549208#M94459</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is not your model base file. Everything in this file is referenced short cut. Try opening the drawing where these shortcuts originated from and go from there.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:26:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549208#M94459</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:26:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549221#M94460</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That is the drawing where the short came from.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:31:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549221#M94460</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:31:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549230#M94461</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Did you get the error message also?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:36:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549230#M94461</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:36:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549263#M94462</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See attached, see the little arrow in front of the yellow exclamation. That means that the alignment is a data shortcut. If the alignment was created in that drawing, the little arrow wouldn't be there. The alignments or whatever is short-cutted can only be adjusted in the drawing they were created in.&amp;nbsp; You can short cut an alignment and use it as a reference in another drawing and cut your a profile or run a corridor. But everything in the drawing you uploaded has the little arrow in front of your items in the Prospector Tab. And no I did not get that message, I am using 2019.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:51:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549263#M94462</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:51:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549274#M94463</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Capture.JPG" style="width: 861px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/777528i47E79EB0D54A4225/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Capture.JPG" alt="Capture.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:54:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549274#M94463</guid>
      <dc:creator>pendean</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:54:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549276#M94464</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Try to do a repair of all your shortcuts and see if that helps since you have the directories i don't&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:55:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549276#M94464</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:55:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549279#M94465</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;None of that is there when i open it. Can you do a saveas of the drawing and post it back.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Terry&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:55:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549279#M94465</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:55:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549286#M94466</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No, sorry I can't.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:57:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549286#M94466</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:57:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549287#M94467</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's only his data info from his profile.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 17:58:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549287#M94467</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T17:58:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549290#M94468</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes i know the info is wrong but i can't find where to change it now.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 18:00:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549290#M94468</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T18:00:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549311#M94469</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's to bad i would like to open the save as to see if it shows up like that for me.&amp;nbsp; I guess i have no choose but to start over with the model.&amp;nbsp; The data short cuts still work from the project so i guess i will do that.&amp;nbsp; You can see the file name is correct for where the short cuts came from.&amp;nbsp; Will they not let you post the drawing back?&amp;nbsp; Can you email it back to me or upload to a cloud if i email you a link to put it in?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="terryl_0-1590775657045.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/777538iA33EE1FBBAEFE08E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="terryl_0-1590775657045.png" alt="terryl_0-1590775657045.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 18:10:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T18:10:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549315#M94470</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;@Anonymous&amp;nbsp;I, too, can open this drawing just fine. Open the Xref and see if you get the same message. Do the same for the drawing(s) that the Alignments are Dref'ed from "175040C-SPMODEL-ROAD-SEC7.dwg" appears to be the main one. When you get the message about newer version, close the drawing and start a session of "C3D As AutoCAD" and open that dwg. Use QuickSelect and look for the object type "PROXYENTITY" (I think that's it, or something close to that) in the list of available objects. Select that and OK. Erase the selection set. Save/Close. It should now allow the drawings to be opened in C3D.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 18:13:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jeff_M</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T18:13:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549353#M94471</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See the source location, that's where to go.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 18:32:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549353#M94471</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T18:32:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem opening 2018 model file with C3D 2021</title>
      <link>https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/problem-opening-2018-model-file-with-c3d-2021/m-p/9549433#M94472</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Another thing I noticed the filenames, the source name is different than the file you posted.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 19:14:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-29T19:14:40Z</dc:date>
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