topic Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet. in Civil 3D Forum

Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

Akb33F54 — Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:10:08 GMT

I'm trying to work with the odot 2018 state kit civil 3d template. We've had to tweak a few things here and there to work with plan production tools. They had a title block for cross sections, but we made it a .dwt with a layout with a section viewport so we could use civil3ds output tools. I've finally figured out that changing the group plot style array to starting in the lower right and aligning left gets my sections to fit on my sheet rather than hanging over the edge. its slightly off center though. It had appeared before changing the array that there was some sort of x offset in place pushing my sections off the right edge of the sheet. after changing the array rules 70,70 sections seemed to fit perfect on the sheet, but the section boundary overhung the edges and had the elevations right at the edge. Changing the offsets to 65,65 makes the entire section, and its boundary fit completely on the sheet, but my sheets are still only coming in with one section per sheet. I'd be happy to share any other helpful parameters that may be helpful.

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

igi_pop — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:59:51 GMT

Hello!

Are you maybe counting your sections horizontaly then verticaly? Cause you have plenty of room verticaly 🙂

If so, try changing that order (vert then hor) and re-do them.

They are a bit of a pain untill you finally nail them.

Iggy

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

Akb33F54 — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 12:52:39 GMT

I attached a snip from the plot style array. I have it set to "by column". I did go ahead and try changing it to "by rows" but it stacked all sections on top of each other. I changed it back to "by column" and its still only putting one per sheet. Am I missing something?

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

igi_pop — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 13:16:24 GMT

Ok, i've just created some sections to remind myself how to work it exactly. I'm gonna just tax it:

- you need to figure out the scale for the output will be, for instance 1:100 (i'm metric, sorry)

- that will give you the output width/height of each individual section

- in the template you created, your viewport needs to be big enough to fit 2 of them, either way, and set up for sections.

- when creating section frame, your MODEL SPACE must be at the desired scale (same as template layout)

- from what i see, no matter what the start point and direction of counting is selected, it all rearanges to the frames

- bare in mind the distance between adjacent section views. after i reduced the distance to 0mm, it fit some pages with 4 sections (screen attached)

Maybe some of this helps, or rings a bell.

Ask away 🙂

Iggy

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

sboon — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 16:30:44 GMT

I did an Autodesk University class on this topic a while back. Search the AU website for CI1527.

Steve

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

Akb33F54 — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 17:27:59 GMT

So I was able to get multiple on a sheet by making my section view offsets smaller, but I still can't get it centered. I feel like there's some sort of forced offset somewhere that I'm missing. I've spent a lot of hours trying to get this worked out this week. attached is what a sheet looks like with a 60 left and 60 right offset. Also is a summary of the plot style and section view style. Thanks for trouble shooting with me.

I did confirm that my model space is 1:5 as well as my viewport scale.

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

sboon — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 17:38:31 GMT

Turn on the display of the Major horizontal and vertical grid lines in the Group Plot Style. The rules are:

Each section view is inserted at the intersection of two major grid lines.
There must be at least one major grid line separating adjacent views.

I suspect that you have the Plot Area grid details set incorrectly. Once you can see the grids try editing the major grid spacing until you get it working the way you want it.

Steve

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

igi_pop — Fri, 09 Apr 2021 06:17:41 GMT

@Akb33F54 wrote:
So I was able to get multiple on a sheet by making my section view offsets smaller, but I still can't get it centered. I feel like there's some sort of forced offset somewhere that I'm missing. I've spent a lot of hours trying to get this worked out this week. attached is what a sheet looks like with a 60 left and 60 right offset. Also is a summary of the plot style and section view style. Thanks for trouble shooting with me.

I did confirm that my model space is 1:5 as well as my viewport scale.

@sboon is correct, changing the vertical grid will move your sections left<->right, horizontal up<->down. The problem here can only be if your sections are not uniform in size, i guess. I'm gonna check out the AU post @sboon suggested, as I'm always into learning stuff 🙂

Cheers, and good luck!

Cheers,

Iggy

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

Akb33F54 — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:42:40 GMT

Now I'm questioning if there isn't some drawing setting that can force (annotation?) things to offset. I just tried modifying a pipe label style so that the text anchor point is the bottom outer diameter, and the text attachment is top center, with no x or y offsets and the text is coming in about .38x the scale away from the pipe.

Re: Production cross section is only allowing one section per sheet.

Akb33F54 — Fri, 16 Apr 2021 12:26:45 GMT

I figured out the pipe label offset issue. The text border that was not on, was set to circular.