topic Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate in Civil 3D Forum

Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:07:38 GMT

Anyone using Nearmap?

If so have you noticed any new scaling and/or insertion point issues in the past few months?

I can get MSid images in w/o issue with IInsert and a Data Connection. Both of these methods fail with Nearmap images. I have copied the folder locally to insure the path was not longer than 128 characters. jpg and jpw have same name. Fails with company template and NCS template, coord sys is assigned.

This all worked fine for two years and I started to get complaints about two months ago.

Has anyone seen similar issues?

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

rkmcswain — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:33:13 GMT

@Hey @jmayo-EE - we are a user, just not me personally. I'll see if I can get a few sample images to test.

What version of Civil 3D should I test?

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 19:08:51 GMT

Using 2020. Thx

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Pointdump — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 21:01:10 GMT

John,
Can you post one of your NearMap images that isn't working? I can test in 2020 and 2022.
Dave

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 13:32:56 GMT

As requested.

...I am wondering if our MS guys changed our template or acaddoc.lsp settings for insunits or similar variable. I'm busy but will check soon.

The attached files were properly located in a dwg almost 2 yrs ago. I cannot get them in any new file correctly now.

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

AllenJessup — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 13:55:03 GMT

John,

I didn't catch where you were working and Bing maps won't load. Here's where the image came in.

and the approximate center.

BTW. I left my coordinate system as New York East Feet. That should match NJ.

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:02:11 GMT

Sorry folks nj83f is the cord sys

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:24:09 GMT

The issue is my ignorance. As usual the problem falls between the chair and keyboard. 🙂

I have used mapiinsert with these images for so long and was not aware that data connect requires the user to enter the image coord sys which I never had to do with Mapiinsert....

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:25:28 GMT

Thanks to all who spent some time on this.

First person who responds with a, 'your welcome' gets the solution!

I can't give them to my own posts. 🙂

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

AllenJessup — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:38:40 GMT

You're welcome. John.

Or maybe 'your welcome'?

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 16:32:23 GMT

That's curious. Our ortho photos come in using MAPCONNECT without an assigned coordinate system and they fall right where they're supposed to.

BTW, W74 N51 is up in Quebec in some wild looking country ...

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 18:36:24 GMT

I will test David.

Thx.

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

AllenJessup — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 19:09:52 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

BTW, W74 N51 is up in Quebec in some wild looking country ...

Yeah. The Latitude looks severely compromised. But the N/E coordinates looked the be in the ballpark. I didn't test them. Just thought they looked right for West New York, NJ.

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Pointdump — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 19:17:48 GMT

David,
Location 40.792924,-74.053123 is in Secaucus, New Jersey.
Dave

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 19:43:33 GMT

See message 6 of 14 for the coords I was referring to. I was just curious where they'd land.

DAR

Lat45Lon90

(almost, I'm south in Dane Co., WI, that's 100 mi up north in Marathon Co. There's a rock there marking the spot.)

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Pointdump — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 19:44:26 GMT

John,
The NearMap image is in EPSG:26918 NAD83/UTM zone 18N, a metric Coordinate System. If you use MAPIINSERT in a drawing assigned that same Coordinate System it drops in the right place. Save and Close that drawing. Then in your NJ83F drawing you can Attach/Query the drawing with the NearMap image.
Dave

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Pointdump — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 19:48:01 GMT

David,
OK, I see where you got those numbers.
Dave

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 21:31:32 GMT

Yes the cood and lat lon were in the file names.

Dave S. I know I can get around the units with a query but I have never had to do it with these maps before.

In the zip file is a dwg created in June. It has a Nearmap image that was inserted with MapIInsert. Now I can't get MapIInsert or IInsert to work on the Image. Only dataconnect at this point. Have not tried mapconnect yet.

What happened?

Screencast of IInsert failing. Note the units and correlation values..

https://autode.sk/3y0qsO7

Here's the attached dwg file on the left and the results with a new file to the right.

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 22:49:45 GMT

John,
I used IINSERT in a new drawing, but I did not click the "Transform to drawing's coordinate system" box. Because the image and drawing use the same coordinate system, no transformation is needed. You can also use MAPIINSERT.
Dave (The poster formerly known as Pointdump, who tires of hitting back buttons to be able to post)

Re: Nearmap Images no longer geolocate

jmayo-EE — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:51:13 GMT

Thanks Dave.

Odd thing is that works for one image and not another! Just to make sure I'm not going nuts I recorded it. 🙂

https://autode.sk/3mhD4hG