topic Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another in Civil 3D Forum

SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 20:28:46 GMT

We have a strange situation that I can't figure out. My colleague and I have the same AutoCAD versions installed on our machines.

When we select a point that we brought in as a shp file, I am able to see its associated ID in my properties box.

When she does the same exercise, she cannot see the ID. Her properties box appears to be missing the bottom component.

We are looking at the same AutoCAD file.

Any help would be appreciated. I'm sure it's something really dumb!

Thanks,

Liesl

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

CodeDing — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 20:53:11 GMT

@Liesl_H ,

Can you post the drawing for us to look at?

Also, it appears that you are NOT selecting the same point:

Best,

~DD

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:00:46 GMT

Hello! Unfortunately I cannot share the drawing due to confidentiality issues.

I noticed that the dialog box showed different locations - I snipped the box when she was on a different point but the result is the same and we did both check BH25-02. I attached the shp file we are using but that may not be useful. Is it a variable? As far as I know everything is pretty much default on both machines.

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

AllenJessup — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:01:37 GMT

@Liesl_H

In addition to what @CodeDing mentioned. Are you both bringing in the SHP file using the same workflow? Possibly one using Mapimport vs attaching through FDO?

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

CodeDing — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:01:55 GMT

@Liesl_H ,

What Versions of AutoCAD are you both running?

Object Data properties are not visible in Vanilla AutoCAD, but are visible in Map3D/Civil3D.

Some researching hints that it also might be a bug or a profile issue:

https://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?97997-Properties-palette-doesn-t-show-block-attributes&p=1164056&viewfull=1#post1164056

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/civil-object-properties-not-displaying-in-properties-palette/td-p/9394089

Best,
~DD

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:04:10 GMT

That is an excellent question Allen. The points were imported using mapimport. I opened her same drawing and didn't do my own import. So we are looking at apples/apples situation.

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:08:15 GMT

Thanks for these links - I will look.

We are both using AutoCAD Civil 3D 2024 (AEC edition). I think the only difference is I have Raster Tools installed and she doesn't but that shouldn't make a difference

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

AllenJessup — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:17:47 GMT

Try looking through here:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/mapimport-object-data-no-coming-in/td-p/10308649

There is a listed solution but I don't know if it will apply to your case.

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:49:43 GMT

Here are the additional steps we took to figure this out: (spoiler alert, there is no concrete explanation)

1. Other draftsman (#3) opened same drawing (we all share files from central location) and could NOT see the point IDs either on his machine.

2. This draftsman deleted the points and re-imported them using MAPIMPORT. Now he could see the IDs.

3. Original drafter (#1) came back from lunch, we asked her to show us how she imported points. In Map (planning & analysis) from insert tab, she selected MapImport. Brought in points (I was checking to make sure she had selected the add data option, I was sure this was missed) but she did it correctly. When she checked the points, she could NOT see the ID.

4. I opened the same drawing on my machine, could not see the point ID. I deleted and re-imported the, using MAPIMPORT (from Civil) from command bar. I could see the point ID. I saved this drawing.

5. Original drafter (#1) opened the drawing I had just saved and COULD SEE THE POINT ID. The problem was not with her properties box settings.

6. Finally, she deleted the points and re-imported them using the MAPIMPORT command from the command line instead of tool bar, the way I did. Now she could see the point ID.

Conclusion: There may be a glitch with importing from the insert/mapimport tool bar. She did shut down AutoCAD between steps 4 and 5 so the restart may have fixed something. I have run out of energy to check again to see if her initial import method (from toolbar) was the problem but I have used that method many times with no issues. My guess is that restarting her AutoCAD fixed some kind of bug.

Thanks for the input and hopefully this helps someone else in the future. Ugh what a waste of a day.

Have a nice weekend!

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

ChicagoLooper — Sat, 22 Feb 2025 21:59:07 GMT

Shutdown, reboot, and rerun the command..

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:49:58 GMT

The drafter had rebooted her machine that morning and this "error" showed up afterwards. I think that it may have been a glitch with how she was importing the data from Map. (Tool bar insert, Map Import.) .The rest of us imported typing MAPIMPORT in Civil. I haven't confirmed this and it may very well be a case of turn off, turn on. (ever see "The IT Crowd?")

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

ChicagoLooper — Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:29:59 GMT

@Liesl_H

Make sure your colleague is ''starting' Civil3D' from the desktop Shortcut (or Taskbar Icon) labeled Civil3D20XX. This insures the Civil3D Profile is used at StartUp. Using another method may, or may not, start the Program as Plain Vanilla Cad and not with the complete features associated with Civil3D.

If the Civil3D desktop icon is missing, then you can re-create one doing this:

Start Menu=>Autodesk=>Civil3D 20XX=>(Imperial or Metric)=>RIGHT CLICK=>More=>Open file location=>Right Click Civil3D (Imperial or Metric)=>Send to=>Desktop (create shortcut)

If you work in both imperial and metric, make sure you create two icons: one imperial and another for metric so you'll have one profile for metric and one for imperial. You can't (or shouldn't) substitute one icon for the other. If you do you'll have viewport scaling issues on your layout tab.

Re: SHP file data (point ID) shows up one computer, not another

Liesl_H — Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:45:41 GMT

Always appreciate your thoughtful responses. Thank you!

We each have custom Civil and Map profiles saved but work mostly in Civil. This has really been the first problem we have encountered.

And (shudder) .... working in both imperial and metric. Thankfully not.