topic Re: Structure Size Issue in Civil 3D Forum

Structure Size Issue

654work — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:07:07 GMT

I have a drawing that seems to have corrupted. The issue is certain structures are no longer coming in at the correct size (2k X the size). I can open the same dwg from two days previous and the structures are correctly sized. What is typically used for the Structure Style plan Size Option is Used Fixed Scale from part size. When set to this the structure is increasing the size (in the newer dwg only). Changing to Use fixed scale get the part closer to the size it should be, but not exact. The part is a Rectangular Structure Slab Top Rectangular Frame. The 36 x 36 Rect Structure 36 x 36 Frm displays the correct size, others do not (ex. 48 x 48 Rect Structure 48 x 48 Frm. I’m uncertain why this stopped working correctly in the newer dwg but works correctly in the older dwg file.

C3D 2017, SP 1.1

Win 7

Re: Structure Size Issue

Kyle-Evans — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:22:51 GMT

I have seen this happen in multiple drawings, so far just in 2017. Mine went supersized, to about 2 x 10^20m Diameter. This was just not on one isolated system, it happened on mine (Instructor) and at least 2 of my students machines. It also happened on mine on two separate drawing files that were not connected at all.

I had this sent into AutoDesk, but i have not heard anything from them, and it has not appeared in the last month or so, but I have not been using 2017...

Changing the style to the other part size like you mentioned seems to have worked, but again if the corruption issue is around I am not sure.

One thing that I did notice is that it did not appear in my drawing until I opened one of my students drawings, so it is almost appearing as it is similar to the German Object Naming Bug from 3-4 years ago.

Re: Structure Size Issue

w_vyhonsky — Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:18:30 GMT

Hi - we are having this happen in multiple drawings using 2017 or 2018. So far it only on drawings the were created with 2016. The style is set to use fixed scale from part size, and all of a sudden the structure are huge in scale. It doesn't happen immediately, so I am unable to figure out what triggers this. If I change the style to anything but use fixed scale from part size, the structures will size correctly to the selection.

Has anyone heard of a fix for this coming?

Thanks,

Bill

Civil 3D 2016, 2017, 2018

W10

Re: Structure Size Issue

DBreisch — Wed, 26 Jul 2017 17:47:20 GMT

There needs to be more attention brought to this. I have had this happen as well as my co-workers.

Re: Structure Size Issue

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:15:44 GMT

We just had this issue crop up on a large project, and it's costing us bigtime.

This needs to be addressed immediately.

Re: Structure Size Issue

DBreisch — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:21:20 GMT

A co-worker was able to get some attention from AutoDesk support although ultimately communication ended with no resolution. Extremely frustrating that this isn't being fixed quickly.

Re: Structure Size Issue

Kyle-Evans — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:08:47 GMT

Oh for sure, you would think with the number of people now reporting this that they would put out a fix for it.

In the interim, you can go into your structure style and tell it to use the size from the part size and this should fix the display issue of it anyways.

Not sure if it is causing something else, given that it gives errors when you open the program.

Sindarin

Re: Structure Size Issue

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:10:47 GMT

Unfortunately this problem occurs even when structure styles are set to scale by part size. Currently all of our structure styles are set up this way, and we're still having the problem.

Re: Structure Size Issue

Kyle-Evans — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:12:53 GMT

What if you change it to fixed size, click ok, then switch it back to part size?

Re: Structure Size Issue

DBreisch — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:14:52 GMT

We're tired of having to troubleshoot their software and having to come up with constant work arounds to issues that weren't there in previous releases. I'm not impressed with 2018.

Re: Structure Size Issue

Kyle-Evans — Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:19:05 GMT

I agree 100%...

We are just beta testers... And they don't even fix the bugs that we discover. The manhole issue was originally discovered in 2017, so a product that is now more than a year old is still encountering this issue. Now it upsets me to hear that it has propagated to 2018, being that I have to be on the newest of the newest version.

Re: Structure Size Issue

Kyle-Evans — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 21:47:49 GMT

So this just happened to my brand new drawing again. Again the same size. 2x10^20m in diameter. I am teaching a brand new semester and brand new drawing set in Civil 3D 2018. I am dreading the next 6 weeks as I have 90 students that are going to be possibly having this issue. I open up my drawing to be greeted with a "You have 47 errors, then giant manholes appear.

Anyone have a fix for this yet?

Re: Structure Size Issue

MRHAMMILL — Wed, 11 Jul 2018 19:23:08 GMT

My associate is having this same issue with his drawing. His drawing had a fatal error, he recovered the drawing, and had errors and super-sized structures... ALL of the structures, not just one type. When we put the structures on Fixed scale, they can get close, but on Scale from Part Size, they become huge.Has anyone found a fix or workaround for this yet?

Thanks,
Meredith H.

LWE

Re: Structure Size Issue

b.stark — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:22:36 GMT

This is becoming a defcon 1 issue @Anonymous it is happening more and more often (it seems) and happens on deadline day at the worst possible times.

I have yet to figure out what might be the cause. Nor can I find and acceptable workaround. BTW-I shouldnt have to be trying to figure out a workaround for anything. How about concentrating on fixing problems and making a higher quality product instead of worrying about getting the icons changed for a new release every year.

Re: Structure Size Issue

SMorykin — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:33:45 GMT

Same issue here - randomly happening on more and more machines and we can't track down why or how! We've tried everything mentioned in this thread however it doesn't always 'fix' the issue. We've had to scale down our structures just to get a final submission out the door.

Re: Structure Size Issue

w_vyhonsky — Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:32:39 GMT

I could never come up with a reason why or when it would happen, it was really random. I did narrow it down that it would only happen to the structure styles that were set to "use fixed scale from part size" in the size option. Our "fix" was to create separate styles for each different structure size, and set the size option to "use fixed scale". It also seemed to be only in drawings or structures that were created in an earlier version of civil 3d.

Hope that helps!

Re: Structure Size Issue

SMorykin — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:08:37 GMT

That is the same 'fix' we use although it does not mask the pipes appropriately and leaves our drawings looking horrid.

Re: Structure Size Issue

ajwallis — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:34:23 GMT

My coworkers are experiencing this issue on two projects that were created prior to our move to 2018. I agree that this issue needs fixed.

Re: Structure Size Issue

perry — Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:15:04 GMT

We just came across this same issue today - again a drawing that was started in 2016 and now is worked on (for several weeks) in 2018.

The work-around "solution" I did was in the structure style, set the plan SIZE OPTION to USE DRAWING SCALE and play with the number. For instance we are working in metric with drawing scale of 1:250 - so I set the scale to 6.35. I seems to be a scaling issue of imperial to metric - the old 25.4x scaling issue. At 1:250 - or a quarter of 1:1000 - so 25.4/4=6.35. The structures are not quite right - but a lot closer than using a fixed scale where all structures look the same.

Re: Structure Size Issue

CADmgrMike — Tue, 19 Feb 2019 19:46:08 GMT

I have an interesting twist on this issue.

I have 1 drawing that a certain user can open up and the manhole structures are insanely huge! They can open the next drawing in the set and the manholes are correctly sized. I have had multiple users open both drawings and the manholes are correctly sized.

I checked the block definition we are using for the structure in the drawing with the issue on both the user where it is showing up huge and on another pc. Block defiinition is correct.

1 user and 1 drawing with the issue. Other drawings with this user are fine. Other users with this drawing are fine.

I have no idea where to go with this one.