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Corridor Layer Problem

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:48:03 GMT

I have my sheets set up using paper space tabs and view ports. With the corridor being referenced.

How do I turn off all the referenced corridor frequency lines and daylight lines and just have the referenced curb and gutter and sidewalk edges shown. I am using the all codes style.

I have tried changing the layer of the codes and it says its on the layer I want (When I hover the mouse), but when I turn off the "C-Road-Corr" Layer it still shuts off everything.

What am I missing?

2018.2 in use

Dave Z.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Joe-Bouza — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:56:12 GMT

You have to change the codeset style to display only what you want . AFAIK it cannot be controlled by layer state

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

tcorey — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:11:33 GMT

You need to edit the Code Set Style. For the Links you don't want to see, apply a style that turns off the links.

In the Corridor Properties, Feature Lines tab, uncheck the box for the feature lines you don't want to see, or change them to a style that turns off the lines. See the Display tab when editing the feature line style.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:20:00 GMT

Thanks Joe.

Was hoping I could.

Engineer wants all the corridor lines shown in his base file and on my end of things we only want the curbing, and sidewalks to display in the plan sheets.

How has everyone tackled this?

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Joe-Bouza — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:36:23 GMT

I tried that once. Good luck with that; making your plan geometry from the corridor. We maintain plain acad polyline and hatches and model for grading data only.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

jeff_rivers — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:22:40 GMT

The visibility of the different featurelines and frequency lines / links are all controlled by the styles of the different parts. In the Featurelines tab of the corridor properties dialog, set unique styles for the featurelines you want to control, and in those styles, set them to display on different layers.

Likewise for the subassembly links and markers, create styles for the links and their markers that use a unique layer.

So for example, in my template the subassembly link style draws all links on layer _LINK, and their visibility can be controlled by using VPFREEZE on layer _LINK in any viewport where I don't want to see the links. Corridor featurelines for the important parts use unique layers too, so fill is on layer DS-FILL-PROP-LIN, and its visibility per viewport can be controlled the same way using VPFREEZE.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

wfberry — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:22:20 GMT

Jeff Bartels is the best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZuct0Vy6pk

If this is going to be a common problem, chk out this video.

Bill

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:41:19 GMT

I am guessing that I need to edit the Code Style, that is in the file the engineer is using and not my active file. Would this be correct?

I will check out the video

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Joe-Bouza — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:17:07 GMT

If XREF-ing yes.

2017 and up you can data ref but that has be nebulous for me.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:17:32 GMT

I have been following the Jeff Bartels video link and I see one potential problem with his method. That being, if the engineer does not switch the code set style back to what is needed for plan production then your going to have a mess when someone plots the sheets. I can envision some angry glares from the boss for that.

I have discovered if I go to my sheet file freeze the referenced layer “C-Road-Corr”, then add a corridor data shortcut, I can select a different style then the one the engineer is using.

So all that is needed is to edit the code styles per the video and then copy that style into the plan sheets or a template.

Then when you add the data short cut select the new style. This will allow the engineer to leave the “All Code” style selected for his design file (the xref layer I froze) and the production guys can use the modified style for the plan sheets. This still allows the plan/profile sheets to update.

So far its working ok.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

jeff_rivers — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 22:08:46 GMT

This does raise the question (already asked above)-- How many people use the corridor linework for their production drawings, vs. how many people re-draw the linework to pretty it up? I'm genuinely curious to know.

Where I am, our production linework is re-drawn based on the corridor linework, but it exists in a separate drawing. In theory, the corridor could change and we would forget to update the production linework.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Anonymous — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 00:19:58 GMT

Yea we have the same problem and the manually draw items don't get updated. Using the corridor code style should help avoid some of the redo work.

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

Joe-Bouza — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:59:56 GMT

Id say this was a what came first the chicken or the egg issue, but it was quite clear what drove the design before the invention of the corridor.

For us the flat alignment drives the design of the corridor (mostly). sometimes the corridor designer will intercede with knowledge of feasibility not immediately evident to a 2d designer: (usually someone lees in-tuned with the nuts and bolts of the work) and the coordination continues.

Truth-be-told and I think i am pretty good corridor modeler; I seem to always run into some geometry that is too bothersome and unnecessary to build into the corridor. Lets face it, the intent is to get a graded surface. All the dynamic hoosawhatzit is icing on the cake

Re: Corridor Layer Problem

jacob.dwyer — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:56:33 GMT

We also maintain a separate plain AutoCAD line work drawing for all of our projects. Using the corridor styles is too cumbersome, and in order to make the corridor lines look good (e.g. curved instead of tessellated) you either need to extract dynamically linked feature lines (which have their own issues) or make the corridor frequencies so tight that the drawing slows to a crawl. We have so much detail we're required to show on our plans that it becomes clear and evident if the line work needs to be updated. Its a bit of a pain to do it manually when i feel it should be done dynamically, but i don't feel there are adequately stable tools for that yet.